Magazine/website/record store BEST OF 2011 end-of-year list pile-up

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They're starting to dribble out already so let's round them up here.

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Paste magazine, I am lolling @ u

http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2011/11/the-50-best-albums-of-2011.html

50. Frank Turner – England Keep My Bones
49. Mates of State – Mountaintops
48. Drake – Take Care
47. Real Estate – Days
46. Holy Ghost! – Holy Ghost!
45. Those Darlins – Screws Get Loose
44. Kurt Vile – Smoke Ring For My Halo
43. The Joy Formidable – The Big Roar
42. Wild Flag – Wild Flag
41. James Blake – James Blake

40. Portugal. The Man – In The Mountain, In The Cloud
39. Foster the People – Torches
38. Over the Rhine – The Long Surrender
37. The War on Drugs – Slave Ambient
36. Mister Heavenly – Out Of Love
35. Childish Gambino – Camp
34. Seryn – This Is Where We Are
33. The Head and the Heart – The Head and the Heart
32. Ryan Adams – Ashes & Fire
31. Telekinesis – 12 Desperate Straight Lines

30. Tom Waits – Bad As Me
29. Feist – Metals
28. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes
27. Black Lips – Arabia Mountain
26. The Low Anthem – Smart Flesh
25. The Antlers – Burst Apart
24. TV on the Radio – Nine Types of Light
23. The Belle Brigade – The Belle Brigade
22. The Black Keys – El Camino
21. Charles Bradley – No Time For Dreaming

20. Beirut – The Rip Tide
19. Cults – Cults
18. Wye Oak – Civilian
17. The Civil Wars – Barton Hollow
16. Yuck – Yuck
15. Deer Tick – Divine Providence
14. Adele – 21
13. Radiohead – The King of Limbs
12. Iron & Wine – Kiss Each Other Clean
11. St. Vincent – Strange Mercy

10. The Decemberists – The King Is Dead
9. M83 – Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming
8. Dawes – Nothing Is Wrong
7. Wilco – The Whole Love
6. Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. – It’s A Corporate World
5. Middle Brother – Middle Brother
4. tUnE-yArDs – w h o k i l l
3. My Morning Jacket – Circuital
2. Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues
1. Bon Iver – Bon Iver

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

The fact mag countdown has started:

http://www.factmag.com/2011/11/28/50-best-albums-of-2011-50-41/

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

god help paste magazine if they really haven't heard any albums better than those 50

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yep, totally dismal

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Songlines top ten albums

http://www.songlines.co.uk/world-music-news/2011/11/best-albums-of-2011/

Abigail Washburn - City of Refuge
Aurelio - Laru Beya
Carminho - Fado
Blind Note - Blind Note
Boban & Marko Markovic & Fanfare Ciocarlia - Balkan Brass Battle
Cecil Sharp Project - Cecil Sharp Project
Söndörgő - Tamburising
Dawda Jobarteh - Northern Light Gambian Night
Anda Union - The Wind Horse
Anoushka Shankar - Traveller

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rough Trade shop - top 100 albums

1 josh t pearson - last of the country gentlemen
2 nicolas jaar - space is only noise
3 kurt vile - smoke ring for my halo
4 gillian welch - the harrow and the harvest
5 pj harvey - let england shake
6 veronica falls - veronica falls
7 zomby - dedication
8 john maus - we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves
9 the head and the heart - the head and the heart
10 white hills - h-p1

11 sbtrkt - sbtrkt
12 lykke li - wounded rhymes
13 metronomy - the english riviera
14 calvi anna - anna calvi
15 bon iver - bon iver
16 pollyn - living in patterns
17 beirut - the rip tide
18 ema - past life martyred saints
19 cults - cults
20 balam acab - wander / wonder

21 ghostpoet - peanut butter blues and melancholy jam
22 lanterns on the lake - gracious tide take me home
23 drive by truckers - go-go boots
24 tom the lion - the adventures of tom the lion
25 civil wars - barton hollow
26 emmy the great - virtue
27 the low anthem - smart flesh
28 black lips - arabia mountain
29 seahawks - invisible sunrise
30 villalobos ricardo and max loderbauer - re: ecm

31 jeb loy - the jeb loy nichols special
32 wild beasts - smother
33 wild flag - wild flag
34 yuck - yuck
35 cook hollie - hollie cook
36 wooden shjips - west
37 waits tom - bad as me
38 tucek sarabeth - get well soon
39 still corners - creatures of an hour
40 dum dum girls - only in dreams

41 arctic monkeys - suck it and see
42 wilco - the whole love
43 the stepkids - the stepkids
44 washed out - within and without
45 the leisure society - into the murky water
46 carlyle mara - floreat
47 iceage - new brigade
48 dawes - nothing is wrong
49 blake james - james blake
50 the vaccines - what do you expect from the vaccines

51 peaking lights - 936
52 radiohead - king of limbs
53 azari and iii - azari and iii
54 danger mouse and daniele luppi - rome
55 male bonding - endless now
56 cashier no 9 - to the death of fun
57 the war on drugs - slave ambient
58 unknown mortal orchestra - unknown mortal orchestra
59 bjork - bibliophilia
60 cat's eyes - cat's eyes

61 moore thurston - demolished thoughts
62 little dragon - ritual union
63 king creosote and jon hopkins - diamond mine
64 the field - looping state of mind
65 fucked up - david comes to life
66 the decemberists - the king is dead
67 martyn - ghost people
68 flashman - to the victor - the spoils
69 wu lyf - go tell fire to the mountain
70 other lives - tamer animals

71 explosions in the sky - take care take care take care
72 cornershop ft. bubbley kaur - cornershop and the double 'o' groove
73 the felice brothers - celebration florida
74 dirty beaches - badlands
75 real estate - days
76 richmond fontaine - the high country
77 dury baxter - happy soup
78 she keeps bees - dig on
79 dark dark dark - wild go
80 planningtorock - w

81 pete and the pirates - one thousand pictures
82 kitty daisy and lewis - smoking in heaven
83 fleet foxes - helplessness blues
84 the horrors - skying
85 moon duo - mazes
86 big deal - lights out
87 locussolus - locussolus
88 new look - new look
89 kode 9 and the spaceape - black sun
90 beastie boys - hot sauce committee part two

91 woods - sun and shade
92 love inks - esp
93 summer camp - welcome to condale
94 jehst - the dragon of an ordinary family
95 i break horses - hearts
96 shabazz palaces - black up
97 big troubles - romantic comedy
98 neon indian - era extrana
99 tune-yards - whokill
100 tyler the creator - goblin

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

an improvement on the paste list but still way too much boring indie

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, a top 100 - who can even take that all in?

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

not me for a kick off.

Ou est la showaddywaddy (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

The bottom 50 of a top 100 usually tends to be a lot more interesting to me than the top.

Because, if it's caused by voting listmaking, it means that at least 2 people have ~really~ loved something which was either ignored or loathed by everyone else. Which is the sign of a marmitey album that I might love more than the dull boring critical consensus ones.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's true! someone needs to develop some sort of app for filtering out the dull consensus picks

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

just noticed that they mistitled the bjork album at 59 :)

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i do not have the brain for this kind of list-making, but the frank ocean & colin stetson lps are on neither, & are interesting lps. i know that's picky but that they're reasonably highly thought of inside their non-indie-genres seems illuminating.

Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm fucking livid at that paste list

dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

35. Childish Gambino – Camp

dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

35. Childish Gambino

dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Childish Gambino

dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

dealwithit.gif

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

DECIBEL EOY List:

1. Tombs - Path of Totality
2. Opeth- Heritage
3. Mastodon - The Hunter
4. In Solitude - The World. The Flesh. The Devil.
5. Brutal Truth- End Time
6. Hate Eternal - Phoenix Amongst the Ashes
7. YOB - Atma
8. 40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room
9. Inquisition - Ominous Doctrines of the Perpetual.......
10. Junius - Reports From The Threshold of Death
11. Graveyard - Hisingen Blues
12. Primordial - Redemption at the Puritan's Hand
13. Exhumed - All Guts, No glory
14. False - False
15. Autopsy - Macabre Eternal
16. Revocation - Chaos of Forms
17. Trap Them - Darker Handcraft
18. Obscura - Omnivium
19. Drugs of Faith - Corroded
20. Subrosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
21. Ulcerate - The Destroyers of All
22. Fucked Up - David Comes to Life
23. Atriarch - Forever the End
24. Disma - Towards the Megalith
25. Moab - Ab Ovo
26. Gridlink - Orphan
27. Skeletonwitch - Forever Abomination
28. Vallenfyre - A Fragile King
29. Crowbar - Sever the Wicked Hand
30. Mournful Congregation - The Book of Kings
31. Machine Head - Unto the Locust
32. ABSU - Abzu
33. Negative Plane - Stained Glass Revelations
34. Origin - Entity
35. Darkest Era - The Last Caress of Light
36. Deafheaven - Roads to Judah
37. Hammers of Misfortune - 17th Street
38. Krallice - Diotima
39. Rwake - Rest
40. Graf Orlock - Doom Box

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm fucking livid at that paste list

I can only assume you've never seen a Paste list before, since this is par for the shitty course.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

THE FLY

01 - BURST APART - THE ANTLERS
02 - THE ENGLISH RIVIERA - METRONOMY
03 - SKYING - THE HORRORS
04 - DYE IT BLONDE - SMITH WESTERNS
05 - A DIFFERENT KIND OF FIX - BOMBAY BICYCLE CLUB
06 - LET ENGLAND SHAKE - PJ HARVEY
07 - SMOTHER - WILD BEASTS
08 - FATHER, SON, HOLY GHOST - GIRLS
09 - WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM THE VACCINES _ THE VACCINES
10 - GLOSS DROP - BATTLES
11 - SMOKE RING FOR MY HALO - KURT VILE
12 - THE KING OF LIMBS - RADIOHEAD
13 - YUCK - YUCK
14 - PALA - FRIENDLY FIRES
15 - ANNA CALVI - ANNA CALVI
16 - WITHIN AND WITHOUT - WASHED OUT
17 - BON IVER - BON IVER
18 - JAMES BLAKE - JAMES BLAKE
19 - VERONICA FALLS - VERONICA FALLS
20 - CEREMONIALS - FLORENCE & THE MACHINE
21 - UNKNOWN MORTAL ORCHESTRA - UNKNOWN MORTAL ORCHESTRA
22 - DAYS - REAL ESTATE
23 - ARABIA MOUNTAIN - BLACK LIPS
24 - A CREATURE I DON´T KNOW - LAURA MARLING
25 - D - WHITE DENIM
26 - HAPPY SOUP - BAXTER DURY
27 - HELPLESSNESS BLUES - FLEET FOXES
28 - GO TELL FIRE TO THE MOUNTAIN - WU LYF
29 - NATIVE SPEAKER - BRAIDS
30 - GARDENS & VILLA - GARDENS & VILLA
31 - A THOUSAND HEYS - MAZES
32 - CADENZA - DUTCH UNCLES
33 - LAST NIGHT ON EARTH - NOAH & THE WHALE
34 - HOTEL SHAMPOO - GRUFF RHYS
35 - STRANGE MERCY - ST. VINCENT
36 - SUCK IT AND SEE - ARCTIC MONKEYS
37 - PAST-LIFE MARTYRED SAINTS - EMA
38 - WOUNDED RHYMES - LYKKE LI
39 - MIRROR TRAFFIC - STEPHEN MALKMUS & THE JICKS
40 - SBTRKT - SBTRKT
41 - SLAVE AMBIENT - THE WAR ON DRUGS
42 - MYLO XYLOTO - COLDPLAY
43 - BLACK UP - SHABAZZ PALACES
44 - CEREBRAL BALLZY - CEREBRAL BALLZY
45 - BUILD A ROCKET BOYS! - ELBOW
46 - ANGLES - THE STROKES
47 - PARADISE - SLOW CLUB
48 - VALHALLA DANCEHALL - BRITISH SEA POWER
49 - PASSIVE ME, AGRESSIVE YOU - THE NAKED AND THE FAMOUS
50 - THE BIG ROAR - THE JOY FORMIDABLE

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sonic (Swedish magazine) Albums

1. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
2. Gillian Welch - The Harrow & the Harvest
3. My Morning Jacket - Circuital
4. Paul Simon - So Beautiful or So What
5. Lykke Li - Wounded Rhymes
6. James Blake - James Blake
7. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
8. Ryan Adams - Ashes & Fire
9. Tinariwen - Tassili
10. Feist - Metals
11. Bon Iver - Bon Iver
12. The Weeknd - House of Baloons
13. Shabazz Palace - Black Up
14. Wilco - The Whole Love
15. Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
16. A. A. Bondy - Believers
17. Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring for My Halo
18. Adele - 21
19. Tim Hecker - Ravedeath, 1972
20. Tyler, The Creator - Goblin
21. Deportees - Islands & Shores
22. Zomby - Dedication
23. Ison & Fille - För evigt
24. Holy Ghost! - Holy Ghost!
25. Jonathan Johansson - Klagomuren

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blitz from Portugal.

50) The Dodos: No Color
49) Mastodon: The Hunter
48) Bill Callahan: Apocalypse
47) Zomby: Dedication
46) Wild Flag: Wild Flag
45) TV on the Radio: Nine Types of Light
44) Toro Y Moi: Underneath the Pine
43) Patrick Wolf: Lupercalia
42) David Sylvian: Died In Wool
41) SBTRKT: SBTRKT
40) Jessica Lea Mayfield: Tell Me
39) Radiohead: The King of Limbs
38) Gang Gang Dance: Eye Contact
37) The Weeknd: House of Balloons
36) Smith Westerns: Dye It Blonde
35) Friendly Fires: Pala
34) Florence and the Machine: Ceremonials
33) The Field: Looping State Of Mind
32) tUnE-yArDs: w h o k i l l
31) Tinariwen: Tassili
30) Justice: Audio, Video, Disco
29) Metronomy: The English Riviera
28) Afrocubism: Afrocubism
27) Trap Them: Darker Handcarft
26) Coldplay: Mylo Xyloto
25) Chico Buarque: Chico
24) Lykke Li: Wounded Rhymes
23) Feist: Metals
22) Wild Beasts: Smother
21) Low: C'mon
20) Jamie Won: Mirrorwriting
19) Diddy Dirty Money: Last Train To Paris
18) Jonathan Wilson: Gentle Spirit
17) Britney Spears: Femme Fatale
16) Beyoncé: 4
15) Tyler, the Creator: Goblin
14) Katy B: On a Mission
13) Anna Calvi: Anna Calvi
12) Destroyer: Kaputt
11) WU LYF: Go Tell Fire to the Mountain
10) Adele: 21
09) Tom Waits: Bad As Me
08) Laura Marling: A Creature I Don't Know
07) Kurt Vile: Smoke Ring For My Halo
06) Stephen Malkmus And The Jicks: Mirror Traffic
05) Bon Iver: Bon Iver
04) Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues
03) Nicolas Jaar: Space Is Only Noise
02) PJ Harvey: Let England Shake
01) James Blake: James Blake

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Recordstore.co.uk

1. Connan Mockasin Forever Dolphin Love
2. Metronomy The English Riviera
3. The Horrors Skying
4. Kurt Vile Smoke Ring For My Halo
5. Azari & III Azari & III
6. Little Dragon Ritual Union
7. Cut Copy Zonoscope
8. Unknown Mortal Orchestra Unknown Mortal Orchestra
9. Smith Westerns Dye It Blonde
10. Shabazz Palaces Black Up
11. Cat's Eyes Cat's Eyes
12. Thurston Moore Demolished Thoughts
13. Radiohead The King Of Limbs
14. The Antlers Burst Apart
15. Baxter Dury Happy Soup
16. Bon Iver Bon Iver
17. Girls Father, Son, Holy Ghost
18. Yuck Yuck
19. The War On Drugs Slave Ambient
20. Lykke Li Wounded Rhymes
21. Black Lips Arabia Mountain
22. EMA Past Life Martyred Saints
23. Dum Dum Girls Only In Dreams
24. Laura Marling A Creature I Don't Know
25. Danger Mouse & Daniele Luppi Rome
26. Slow Club Paradise
27. Dutch Uncles Cadenza
28. Beastie Boys Hot Sauce Committee Part Two
29. Wooden Shjips West
30. Papercuts Fading Parade

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Q's Top 50 Albums Of 2011

50. Justice - Audio Video Disco
49. Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
48. Noah & The Whale - Last Night On Earth
47. Mastodon - The Hunter
46. SBTRKT - SBTRKT
45. Miles Kane - Colour Of The Trap
44. Death In Vegas - Trans-Love Energies
43. King Creosote & Jon Hopkins - Diamond Mine
42. Josh T Pearson - Last Of The Country Gentlemen
41. Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
40. Danger Mouse & Daniel Luppi - Rome
39. James Blake - James Blake
38. Feist - Metals
37. Washed Out - Within And Without
36. Katy B - On A Mission
35. Cass McCombs - Humor Risk
34. Gruff Rhys - Hotel Shampoo
33. tUnE-yArDs - W H O K I L L
32. Radiohead - King Of Limbs
31. Beastie Boys - Hot Sauce Committee Part II
30. Lady Gaga - Born This Way
29. Kasabian - Velociraptor!
28. Gillian Welch - The Harrow & The Harvest
27. Ed Sheeran - +
26. Lykke Li - Wounded Rhymes
25. Wild Beast - Smother
24. Real Estate - Days
23. Bjork - Biophilla
22. White Lies - Ritual
21. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
20. The Weeknd - Thursday
19. Cass McCombs - Wit's End
18. Anna Calvi - Anna Calvi
17. Metronomy - The English Riviera
16. Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring For My Halo
15. Baxter Dury - Happy Soup
14. The Weeknd - House Of Balloons
13. Bombay Bicycle Club - A Different Kind Of Fix
12. Laura Marling - A Creature I Don't Know
11. The Horrors - Skying
10. Elbow - Build A Rocket Boys!
9. WU LYF - Go Tell Fire To The Mountain
8. St Vincent - Strange Mercy
7. Arctic Monkeys - Suck It And See
6. Jay-Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne
5. Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto
4. Bon Iver - Bon Iver
3. Adele - 21
2. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
1. Florence + The Machine - Ceremonials

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. Connan Mockasin Forever Dolphin Love

waht is this?

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm fucking livid at that paste list

― dealwithit.gif, Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:48 AM (1 hour ago)

they had drake ; )

k3vin k., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Connan Mockasin album is decent psych-pop, but is also a 2010 album rereleased in 2011 under a different title (was previously Please Turn Me Into The Snat, so you can see how a change helped).

if, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad he had a rethink on the snat before the wish anus turned up

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

How do you think the wish anus came to be?

Ou est la showaddywaddy (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

that truly is the riddle of the sphincs

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fact that the decemberists placed so much farther ahead of some of my favorite records in that paste list just blows my mind

diamonddaze85 (ok), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp hahaha

diamonddaze85 (ok), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

o_O at Florence #1 in Q.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

My God at that Q list.

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

where is kate bush band???

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. Tombs - Path of Totality

haha are there really 2 metal albums named path of totality this year?

diamonddaze85 (ok), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

No – my god at that Paste list.

Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

are there any good lists, anywhere

cad, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Piccadilly Records Albums of the Year

Not going to type out all 100, these are the top 20:

1. Peaking Lights - 936 (yay!)
2. Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring For My Halo
3. The Phoenix Foundation - Buffalo
4. Maria Minerva - Cabaret Cixous
5. Metronomy - The English Riviera
6. Wooden Shjips - West
7. Other Lives - Tamer Animals
8. The Kills - Blood Pressures
9. Black Lips - Arabia Mountain
10. Widowspeak - Widowspeak
11. Shimmering Stars - Violent Hearts
12. Dum Dum Girls - Only In Dreams
13. Pure X - Pleasure
14. Jonathan Wilson - Gentle Spirit
15. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
16. Harvey Presents Locussolus - Locussolus
17. Vetiver - The Errant Charm
18. J Mascis - Several Shades of Why
19. Real Estate - Days
20. Washed Out - Within and Without

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Only one list so far has featured Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Funny how everyone scans over the metal list as "oh, well, they just cover metal so of course they're gonna have a list full of metal albums" yet every time something that just covers shitty indie has a list made up of shitty indie people are LIVID.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha are there really 2 metal albums named path of totality this year?

lolyes

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp but it's not even good indie :(

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd say Q at least pretends to cover more than shitty indie? I guess they do include Jay-Z and Kanye to demonstrate they know about the rapping too.

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rounder Records (Brighton) top 50:

1.THE HORRORS - "Skying" (XL)
2.SUUNS - "Zeroes QC" (Secretly Canadian)
3.THE WAR ON DRUGS - "Slave Ambient" (Secretly Canadian)
4.PJ HARVEY - "Let England Shake" (Island)
5.HYETAL - "Broadcast" (Special Branch)
6.FORD & LOPATIN - "Channel Pressure" (Software)
7.NEON INDIAN - "Era Extrana" (Transgressive)
8.JOHN MAUS - "We Must Become The Pitiless Censors Of Ourselves" (Upset The Rhythm)
9.MOON DUO - "Mazes" (Souterrain Transmissions)
10.PEAKING LIGHTS - "936" (Weird World)
11.THURSTON MOORE - "Demolished Thoughts" (Matador)
12.SBTRKT - "SBTRKT" (Young Turks)
13.METRONOMY - "The English Riviera" (Because)
14.YUCK - "Yuck" (Mercury)
15.MAYER HAWTHORNE - "How Do You Do" (Universal Republic)
16.CAT'S EYES - "Cat's Eyes" (Polydor)
17.BOOKER T JONES - "The Road From Memphis" (Epitaph)
18.THE FIELD - "Looping State Of Mind" (Kompakt)
19.STEPHEN MALKMUS - "Mirror Traffic" (Domino)
20.VERONICA FALLS - "Veronica Falls" (Bella Union)
21.WILD FLAG - “Wild Flag” (Wichita)
22.JOHN TEJADA - "Parabolas" (Kompakt)
23.JUSTICE - "Audio, Video, Disco" (Edbanger)
24.BEASTIE BOYS - "Hot Sauce Committee Part Two" (Capitol)
25.JAMIE WOON - "Mirrorwriting" (Interscope)
26.MEMORY TAPES - "Player Piano" (Something In Construction)
27.LOCUSSOLUS - "Locussolus" (International Feel)
28.NO JOY - "Ghost Blonde" (Mexican Summer)
29.GUI BORATTO - "III" (Kompakt)
30.WIDOWSPEAK - "Widowspeak" (Captured Tracks)
31.MOGWAI - "Hardcore Will Never Die But You Will" (Rock Action)
32.MARTYN - "Ghost People" (Brainfeeder)
33.ELEANOR FRIEDBERGER - "Last Summer" (City Slang)
34.J.MASCIS - "Several Shades Of Why" (Sub Pop)
35.TORO Y MOI - "Underneath The Pine" (Carpark)
36.THE KILLS - "Blood Pressures" (Domino)
37.WASHED OUT - "Within & Without" (Weird World)
38.RINGO DEATHSTARR - "Colour Trip" (Club AC30)
39.DENNIS COFFEY - "Dennis Coffey" (Strut)
40.EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY - "Take Care Take Care Take Care" (Bella Union)
41.GRUFF RHYS - "Hotel Shampoo" (Ovni)
42.TOM WAITS - "Bad As Me" (Anti)
43.MODESELEKTOR - "Monkeytown" (Monkeytown)
44.HOLY GHOST - "Holy Ghost" (DFA)
45.RUSTIE - “Glass Swords” (Warp)
46.KITTY, DAISY & LEWIS - "Smoking In Heaven" (Sunday Best)
47.WOODEN SHJIPS - "West" (Thrill Jockey)
48.BALAM ACAB - "Wander/Wonder" (Triangle)
49.ST. VINCENT - "Strange Mercy" (4AD)
50.BLOOD ORANGE - “Coastal Grooves” (Domino)

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ decent list

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd say Q at least pretends to cover more than shitty indie?

Q doesn't even cover very much shitty indie. They cover old man rock music.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want to check out the Suuns record from that list, it sounds pretty interesting.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

SBTRKT album is coming up a lot - any good?

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

emil.y: http://www.myspace.com/suuns_

btw the Blanck Mass album over in FACT is really good

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

container album on the fact list is excellent too. check out the track 'dissolve' cos that is a banger

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the Haxan Cloak album, though I do need to listen to it a bit more.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw the Blanck Mass album over in FACT is really good

truth

diamonddaze85 (ok), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. – It’s A Corporate World

this... this is a real album?

OH NOES, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT list looks cool, though I've only heard two albums so far. But to be fair, I've only heard 5-10% on most of these lists...

sean doily, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i need to hear that Haxan Cloak album, actually

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's okay but not all that great - the roly porter record makes a better fist of the strings plus menacing ambience thing imo

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, I haven't heard that.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha, well even that one gets a bit boring too

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy cow JEHST made a record? In 2011? That made a list? I was just assuming he was working at an twenty four hour petrol station being annoyed at the kids these days.

Or to sum it up, lol.

big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

SBTRKT album is coming up a lot - any good?

Yes.

I want to check out the Suuns record from that list, it sounds pretty interesting.

The pre-album EP was really good, but the album doesn't hang together so well.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha maybe my next poll will be Suuns vs. Death Grips

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

35: JON BROOKS - MUSIC FOR THOMAS CARNACKI VOL. 1

This sounds like total emil.y bait:

This remarkable, digital-only album by Jon Brooks – best known for his work as The Advisory Circle on Ghost Box – might just be the last word in hauntology. Under a title that nods to the supernaturally-attuned detective of William Hope Hodgson’s pre-war fantasy fiction, Brooks presents 27 perfectly-formed miniatures of occult ambience, queer-pitched radiophonics and pseudo-classical whimsy. An absolute delight.

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes! I was surprised that I hadn't actually heard that this year. Unless the mister has surreptitiously played it - he's at least as big a Ghost Box fan as me, if not even more.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Suun album actually came out back in 2010 in the States, its hit or miss tbh. Some really great tracks, but a lot of filler iirc.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

what is moon duo like

smh, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking awesome. Its a side project of a Wooden Shjips dude, but more emphasis on keyboards. Some fucking jams on that new album.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm fucking livid at that paste list

~shrugs~

Looks like a Paste list.

Louis C.K. Williams (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

CKotm

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I see that's been covered.

Louis C.K. Williams (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I really like the Moon Duo record. Don't dig the Doors-isms of Wooden Shjips, but MD are groovy synthy shiz.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meh, I liked the WS album this year more than the MD album

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked them both, but I felt like the Shjips record was them on cruise control - fine, but nothing they hadn't done already. The Moon Duo record was a leap from the previous stuff though, but he best thing they did this year was "Sickener" on the Horror Tour thing.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jon Brooks – best known for his work as The Advisory Circle on Ghost Box

The guy's been busy this year. As the Crow Flies is also quite nice.

o. nate, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha are there really 2 metal albums named path of totality this year?

If you wanna call Korn & Skrillex "metal" that is. But to be a pedant, Tombs is Path of Totality while Korn added The to the front of it.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are the consensus hip hop and rnb albums this year?

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Childish Gambino

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

LIVID

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Camp

diamonddaze85 (ok), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Childish Gambino

OH NOES, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Uncut magazine:

50 Unknown Mortal Orchestra – Unknown Mortal Orchestra
49 Arbouretum – The Gathering
48 Cornershop Featuring Bubbley Kaur – Cornershop And The Double-O Groove Of
47 The Caretaker – An Empty Bliss Beyond This World
46 Iceage – New Brigade
45 Mikal Cronin – Mikal Cronin
44 tUnE-yArDs – w h o k i l l
43 St. Vincent – Strange Mercy
42 Jenny Hval – Viscera
41 Raphael Saadiq – Stone Rollin’

40 Kate Bush – 50 Words For Snow
39 Dawes – Nothing Is Wrong
38 His Golden Messenger – From Country Hai East Cotton
37 Little Dragon – Ritual Union
36 Jonny – Jonny
35 My Morning Jacket – Circuital
34 Fatoumata Diawara – Fatou
33 Low – C’Mon
32 Gil Scott Heron & Jamie XX – We’re New Here
31 Destroyer – Kaputt

30 Tim Hecker – Ravendeath, 1972
29 Paul Simon – So Beautiful Or So What
28 King Creosote & Jon Hopkins – Diamond Mine
27 Björk – Biophilia
26 The Decemberists – The King Is Dead
25 Bill Callahan – Apocolypse
24 Real Estate – Days
23 Thurston Moore – Demolished Thoughts
22 Gang Gang Dance – Eye Contact
21 James Blake – James Blake

20 Ry Cooder – Pull Up Some Dust And Sit Down
19 Drive-By Truckers – Go-Go Boots
18 Tinariwen – Tassili
17 Feist – Metals
16 Jonathan Wilson – Gentle Spirit
15 Wilco – The Whole Love
14 Kurt Vile – Smoke Ring For My Halo
13 Tom Waits – Bad As Me
12 Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues
11 Laura Marling – A Creature I Don’t Know

10 The War On Drugs – Slave Ambient
09 Bon Iver – Bon Iver
08 Wild Beasts – Smother
07 Radiohead – The King Of Limbs
06 The Horrors – Skying
05 Josh T. Pearson – Last Of The Country Gentlemen
04 White Denim – D
03 Metronomy – The English Riviera
02 Gillian Welch – The Harrow & The Harvest
01 PJ Harvey – Let England Shake

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

not totally horrible

don't fear the (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, that decibel list explains why I was only assigned one blurb this year…

J3ff T., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

my problem with paste has always been not that their taste is incredibly boring and lame (which it is of course) but that the writing generally never got past "college freshman kicking it around in the arts section of the school paper" level. i mean, interesting things can be said about tons of artists that paste loves (well maybe not she & him and m. ward and shit) but i don't think paste has ever really employed those ppl.

tho i think putting iron & wine, the decemberists and wilco in your top 15 in 2011 means it's time for you to go to doggie heaven.

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ctrl-F Matana Roberts ...
:(

zappi, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 01:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

LJ swears up and down that the new Wilco is the best thing they've ever done

gov. brownback blows a lot (henrietta lacks), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

you mean the guy that made a chocolate & cheese sauce to serve with fish?

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

new wilco is actually really good if you're into wilco

moonbop, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 04:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a strangely lame list from piccadilly, considering all the hot shit they carry

moonbop, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad that holy ghost isn't being forgotten

fart, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 04:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

idolater

http://idolator.com/6092572/favorite-albums-2011-idolator

Foster The People, Torches
Lady Gaga, Born This Way
Beyonce, 4
Will Young, Echoes
Oh Land, Oh Land
Adele, 21
The Sound Of Arrows, Voyage
Patrick Stump, Soul Punk
Ben Folds, The Best Imitation Of Myself: A Retrospective
Britney Spears, Femme Fatale

No-one writes to the (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 10:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol at all these lists, tho my own would include a lot of "indie."

NO BON IVER THO that is gross.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

The idea of anyone either praising or going out of their way to mock the Bon Iver is kind of funny to me, its such a bland, boring record that I can't see anyone inspired in either direction. And I actually liked the first one.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT list continues to be the most varied and interesting among year-end lists.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not an easy listen but i love that patten album! andy stott is great too but i probably ended up listening to his other 2011 record (we stay together) more

no-one writes to the (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's fair to combine both of stott's 2011 EPs into one album for year-end purposes.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that FACT list is great. a lot of my year-end favorites are ending up there, and there's a lot to check out too...

ruth m4rcus is a mor4n (henrietta lacks), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Villalobos ECM thing was a real snooze though

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's fair to combine both of stott's 2011 EPs into one album for year-end purposes.

December sees a 2*CD issue of them both together making this an ideologically pure thing to do as well.

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's fair to combine both of stott's 2011 EPs into one album for year-end purposes.

i was thinking the same thing as i was preparing my 2011 list draft

diamonddaze85 (ok), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last year's FACT list was a goldmine. Their site has been molasses slow for me for a few weeks now.

rob (night house), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

[CharlieNo4/Backround Zombie under a new name, btw!]

for a different perspective: http://www.virginmedia.com/music/awards/

Best album:

1. Lady Gaga - Born This Way
2. Adele - 21
3. Nicola Roberts - Cinderella's Eyes
4. Jessie J - Who You Are
5. Beyonce - 4
6. Kasabian - Velociraptor!
7. Professor Green - At Your Inconvenience
8. Katy B - On A Mission
9=. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
9=. Laura Marling - A Creature I Don't Know

whereismyquiz, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last year's FACT list was a goldmine. Their site has been molasses slow for me for a few weeks now.

Not just you, its awful. It seems to be all those flash ads they have.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty fucking wacky here too

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not sure there's an easy way to c&p this but here's excellent Brighton shop Resident's 2011 chart: http://www.resident-music.com/collection&path=599

Oh wait no, here it is:

1 war on drugs : slave ambient (secretly canadian)
2 peaking lights : 936 (domino)
3 kurt vile : smoke ring for my halo (matador)
4 bon iver : bon iver (4ad)
5 lanterns on the lake : gracious tide, take me home (bella union)
6 zomby : dedication (4ad)
7 low : c'mon (sub pop)
8 oneohtrix point never : replica (software)
9 ema : past life martyred saints (souterrain transmissions)
10 cloud control : bliss release (infectious)
11 josh t pearson : the last of the country gentlemen (mute)
12 radiohead : king of limbs (xl)
13 metronomy : the english riviera (because)
14 clams casino : instrumentals (type)
15 john maus : we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves (upset the rhythm)
16 motion sickness of time travel : luminaries & synastry (digitalis)
17 tom waits : bad as me (anti)
18 john foxx & the maths : interplay (metamatic)
19 kuedo : severant (planet mu)
20 nils frahm : felt (erased tapes)
21 panda bear : tomboy (paw tracks)
22 mark mcguire : get lost (editions mego)
23 p j harvey : let england shake (island)
24 walls : coracle (kompakt)
25 gang gang dance : eye contact (4ad)
26 elbow : build a rocket boys (fiction)
27 the haxan cloak : the haxan cloak (aurora borealis)
28 thurston moore : demolished thoughts (matador)
29 real estate : days (domino)
30 arbouretum : the gathering (thrill jockey)

(70 more on the site)

whereismyquiz, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

> 16 motion sickness of time travel : luminaries & synastry (digitalis)

^ good call, y'all. nils frahm album is wonderful too.

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

npr best 'outer sounds' albums of 2011

1. Nicholas Szczepanik, 'Please Stop Loving Me'
2. The Psychic Paramount, 'II'
3. Bill Orcutt, 'How The Things Sing'
4. Julia Holter, 'Tragedy'
5. Glenn Jones, 'The Wanting'
6. Julianna Barwick, 'The Magic Place'
7. Trouble Books & Mark McGuire, 'Trouble Books & Mark McGuire'
8. Indignant Senility, 'Consecration of the Whipstain' / Diamond Catalog, 'Magnified Palette'
9. Ellen Fullman, 'Through Glass Panes'
10. Ernst Karel, 'Swiss Mountain Transport Systems'
11. V/A, Not the Spaces You Know, But Between Them
12. Eli Keszler, Cold Pin
13. Pete Swanson, Man With Potential (stream)
14. Hubble, Hubble Drums (stream)
15. Charlatan, Triangles (stream)
16. Quiet Evenings, Intrepid Trips (stream)
17. Sean McCann, The Capital
18. Loren Connors, Red Mars
19. Jon Mueller, Alphabet of Movements (stream)
20. Jannick Schou, Act of Shimmering
21. Kyle Bobby Dunn, Ways of Meaning
22. Peaking Lights, 936
23. Rene Hell, The Terminal Symphony (stream)
24. Sun Araw, Ancient Romans
25. Jeremiah Cymerman, Fire Sign

diamonddaze85 (ok), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh that's nice! need to check up on some of that stuff...

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

sidenote i HATE the way music press write about bill orcutt:

No one is playing acoustic guitar like Bill Orcutt right now. No one.

make me sad cuz ive been developing my style of shattered folk blues and americana for a couple years now ):

diamonddaze85 (ok), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

is it really that hard to believe that NO ONE has EVER gotten totally baked and snapped the strings off their guitar while playing fragmented finger picking patterns? /end rant

diamonddaze85 (ok), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

talking of whacked-out blues, i was expecting to see charalimbides pop up on lists like that

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm just parrotting deej here but the argument can easily be made that FACT's list and paste's list are the exact same thing except FACT covers hip dance music where as paste covers unhip starbucks rock -- there's just about the same amount of deviation from the expected norm

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

who is the frank turner of hip dance music?

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

cos that shit is just embarrassing

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

people are all up under FACT's nuts bcuz a lot of the shit they cover is obscure but if you don't care about white label techno just like you don't care about "middle brother", shit is equally as boring and insular

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp
I don't disagree with that idea or emil.y's metal list point and have no problem with Paste's list--it serves it demographic function. What I like about FACT's list is that things show up on it that I missed even as a reader of their site.

rob (night house), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh, a lot of stuff on the fact list feels like new sounds, whereas the paste stuff feels like records i've heard a million times before. but yeah, perspective perspective....

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG XANDER HARRIS AND LEGOWELT, WHAT A DIVERSE & INFORMATIVE LIST *fart*

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

look i haven't heard xander harris or legowelt or 262 or damu or africa hitech or the haxan cloak but i'm pretty sure most of them aren't bringing that much new shit to their genres

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

not that there is anything wrong with what FACT does, i just bristle a bit at the reaction that the list gets every year. at least half of that stuff is just boring as shit.

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

true, but i guess that's why they're down at the bottom end of the list. expecting to see stuff like julia holter and pinch & shackleton in the top 20 and those are pretty innovative imo xp

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

and they won't get a mention elsewhere

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

damu and legowelt are good!

i thought v-shasty WAS deej?

white label techno is better than white indie rock, this is obv

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

(not that i'm particularly repping for the fact list but it's waaaaay preferable to paste)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe v-shasty IS deej

lex i probably agree with you but it doesn't make the list any less 'boring' from a distance

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

v-nasty g vastgarten more like

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

almost

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

the mysterious dave cool?

dope, goons and thuggin’ in the street (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp
I think it's the "distance" thing that I don't get or at least don't share. I don't need FACT to try to cover the immense terrain of all music in 2011. I just want them to remind me to listen to stuff I missed or skipped. Telling me what they like in their little microcosm is useful to me not boring. But I'm not a music critic, so these lists are better as tools--basically glorified playlists--rather than barometers of taste or what's "important" in music. But I guess I'm not sure what you're looking for in a year-end list. what makes a list not boring?

rob (night house), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the fact list (this year and every year). i always forget to check their site the rest of the year, and so it's usually full of stuff i'm not familiar with. i end up disliking a good chunk of the music, but always find at least a handful of albums that are great.

Z S, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i also like the FACT list. some of the stuff on it is boring -- that's true of every publication's aggregated list -- but much of it is fascinating and throws a light on underappreciated titles.

1. Nicholas Szczepanik, 'Please Stop Loving Me'
2. The Psychic Paramount, 'II'
3. Bill Orcutt, 'How The Things Sing'
4. Julia Holter, 'Tragedy'
5. Glenn Jones, 'The Wanting'

hm. i haven't even heard of four of these albums. i know of bill orcutt (he of the album cover with all the cool, multi-colored picks), but i haven't heard his solo stuff.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't need FACT to try to cover the immense terrain of all music in 2011. I just want them to remind me to listen to stuff I missed or skipped. Telling me what they like in their little microcosm is useful to me not boring.

i get this. my point is that paste does EXACTLY this as well, but for "uncool"/"bad" music, and it's been decried all over the internet (including by myself!).

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

the psychic paramount album is so good

n/a, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's the one from the top of that list that i have!

i like it, but the opening note/chord is so loud/abrasive that it sometimes is offputting.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

(i am old)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

the psychic paramount album is so good

Yep, this album is so great.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm with the Paste-defenders: I won't check out much on their list because it's far from my taste but at least it doesn't look like anyone else's offering. I much prefer seeing lists of albums I didn't know about than endlessly repeating examples of GAPDY syndrome (what's the 2011 equivalent?).

sean doily, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Psychic Paramount is cool.

J3ff T., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

pp is my fave rock album this year, maybe fave period.

dr. strongo, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm with the Paste-defenders: I won't check out much on their list because it's far from my taste but at least it doesn't look like anyone else's offering. I much prefer seeing lists of albums I didn't know about than endlessly repeating examples of GAPDY syndrome (what's the 2011 equivalent?).

― sean doily, Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:17 PM (5 minutes ago)

what? paste's list looks like every other indie lise

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they really went out on a limb with that Fleet Foxes-Bon Iver one two

Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i wasn't coming out in favor of the paste list

v-shasty, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

huh on second glance you're right. I just remembered the Dale Earnhardt/Middle Brother combo (no idea who they are) and assumed there was lots more of that. Delete post.

sean doily, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 23:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is not the first time deej has criticized FACT (if it is deej); I remember maybe last year comparing it to Pitchfork for Resident Advisor enthusiasts or something along those lines. Anyways, I like the FACT list bcz it has a bunch of albums on it I like and wanted to hear.

And the Psychic Paramount album is rad, though I might like the Cosmic Dead album more...

ruth m4rcus is a mor4n (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 1 December 2011 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

No one is playing acoustic guitar like Bill Orcutt right now. No one.

Eugene Chadbourne still playin shows iirc

dealwithit.gif, Thursday, 1 December 2011 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. Nicholas Szczepanik, 'Please Stop Loving Me'

this is a really good record, i think

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 1 December 2011 05:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

the FACT list is p garbage btw

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 1 December 2011 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

very controversial

veeeery controversial

Z S, Thursday, 1 December 2011 05:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

why dont you childish my gambino

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 1 December 2011 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've seen the light!

ruth m4rcus is a mor4n (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 1 December 2011 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

MOJO EOY 2011

1: PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
2: The Horrors - Skying
3: Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
4: Jonathan Wilson - Gentle Spirit
5: Kate Bush - 50 Words For Snow
6: White Denim - D
7: Josh T Pearson - Last Of The Country Gentlemen
8: Anna Calvi - Anna Calvi
9: Tom Waits - Bad As Me
10: Wild Beasts - Smother
11: Laura Marling - A Creature I Dont Know
12: Kurt Vile - Smoke Rings For My Halo
13: Cat's Eyes - Cat's Eyes
14: King Creosote & Jon Hopkins - Diamond Mine
15: Paul Simon - So Beautiful Or So What
16: Bon Iver - Bon Iver
17: Bill Wells & Aidan Moffat - Everything's Getting Older
18: Thurston Moore - Demolished Thoughts
19: James Blake - James Blake
20: My Morning Jacket - Circuital
21: The War On Drugs - Slave Ambient
22: Beirut - The Rip Tide
23: Bill Callahan - Apocalypse
24: EMA - Past Life Martyred Saints
25: The Stepkids - The Stepkids
26: Drive-By Truckers - Go-Go Boots
27: Arbouretum - The Gathering
28: Lykke Li - Wounded Rhymes
29: Wilco - The Whole Love
30: Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
31: Nick Lowe - That Old Magic
32: Bjork - Biophilia
33: Glenn Jones - The Wanting
34: Gillian Welch - The Harrow & The Harvest
35: Tinariwen - Tassili
36: Shabazz Palaces - Black Up
37: Duane Eddy - Road Trip
38: The Sand Bag - All Through The Night
39: Arctic Monkeys - Suck It And See
40: Charles Bradley - No Time For Dreaming
41: Destroyer - Kaputt
42: Booker T. Jones - The Road From Memphis
43: Gwilym Simcock - Good Days At Scholss Elmau
44: Glen Campbell - Ghost On The Canvas
45: Tuneyards - Whokill
46: Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
47: Radiohead: The King Of Limbs
48: Wire - Red Barked Tree
49: Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
50: Joe Henry - Revere

domish gassambino (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

people are really rating that Bjork album solely because it's Bjork IMO

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess i'm the only one obsessed with the new Atlas Sound! :-/

Z S, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh, trying being obsessed with the new Lamb

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

bjork is top 20 in the guardian list

50-11 are here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/dec/01/best-albums-2011

domish gassambino (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll definitely top-10 the Lamb in our poll.

At least Idolator (and only Idolator) recognized the new Oh Land, though most of their list is well marketed money-pop.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

I do not see at all what ppl are getting from GSH/Jamie XX; everything about that album just screams mediocrity to me

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

GSH/Jamie XX votes are post-mortem tribute, methinks.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

lex will be disappointed he didn't manage to bump drake into the top 10 of that guardian poll

pandemic, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm thrilled that the pistol annies album got enough votes from people-other-than-me to make the top 50

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i agree with OH NOES about björk and gil scott-xx

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

as for drake, i have said my piece, and now i shall just sit back and JUDGE anyone who lowers themselves to rep for him

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kind of OT, but less so here than elsewhere: Johnny F, J0rdan S and I have talked (very briefly) about running the ILM EOY again since it seemed to work well last year. We'll probably wait until the post-sandbox era to start nominations, assuming said era encroaches in the next week or two. Voting from the start of January, probably.

sean doily, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

bigger run down (top 75?) pretty please?

the gas-cramp dilla (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes! i have been looking fwd to it all year (not even a joke)

though every time i remember how much you lot love destroyer i stop looking forward to it

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last year we did a top 77!

sean doily, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, please wait until the end of the year proper to run the poll. I know there won't be that many December albums that make it anyway, but I like to feel like the year is finished before I do an overview of it.

Top 77 is good for me.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last year we did a top 77!

oh shiit yes. had 40 stuck in my brain.

the gas-cramp dilla (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Yeah nominations will definitely be open until the end of the year.

sean doily, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, 77 worked great. I'm looking forward to getting the ball rolling, but agree it's best to wait until we exit the sandbox. Historically, noms have started around mid-December.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll definitely top-10 the Lamb in our poll.

me too. Quite a comeback record.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I could get into that Tinariwen album based off of the song they did on Colbert

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I def have to check that oune out

iagree (henrietta lacks), Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://open.spotify.com/album/6MmvqMg8G3F41F7U1LWv8p

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ there it is

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard the jamie/heron album, but "i'll take care of u" is amazing

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I do not see at all what ppl are getting from GSH/Jamie XX; everything about that album just screams mediocrity to me

agree 100%, and i thought the original GSH disc was brilliant.

BTW, tinariwen are also brilliant. the new disc is so solid, and the song with nels cline -- where cline's drone guitar sounds like an alien ship landing in the desert (his v. accurate description) -- is a stunner.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

really really digging the Tinariwen album

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

there you go. the prior two albums are even better.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

death grips not on any of these lists? the fuck out

E3 yeah it's me, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

tinariwen sounded fine on colbert but the tvotr contributions were extremely o_O . love the older records tho

magicrealism, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

did we do filter?

http://filtermagazine.com/index.php/news/entry/filters_top_10_of_2011_staff_picks

1. M83 : Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming
2. Bon Iver : Bon Iver
3. Fleet Foxes : Helplessness Blues
4. Mayer Hawthorne : How Do You Do?
5. The Weeknd : House of Balloons
6. Adele : 21
7. Elbow : Build a Rocket, Boys!
8. Black Lips : Arabia Mountain
9. Washed Out : Within and Without
10. A$AP Rocky : LIVELOVEA$AP

Honorable Mentions:

(11) James Blake, James Blake
(12) Ryan Adams, Ashes & Fire
(13) Lykke Li, Wounded Rhymes
(14) Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds
(15) Tom Waits, Bad As Me
(16) Little Dragon, Ritual Union
(17) Foo Fighters, Wasting Light
(18) Radiohead, The King of Limbs
(19) Fucked Up, David Comes To Life
(20) Justice, Audio, Video, Disco

the gas-cramp dilla (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

so far theres been one decent list itt

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

funny that no one in the editorial side of FILTER voted for asap rocky, at least according to those indiv lists

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

???? xp

the gas-cramp dilla (pomplamau5), Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

funny that no one in the editorial side of FILTER voted for asap rocky, at least according to those indiv lists

not sure which of the goon squad u r but what do u think the chances of spaceghostpurrp getting much eoy love??

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

very little

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i havent really seen his name brought up that much this year outside of lumping him in w/ the general 'scene' -- i don't think his actual music has been a big galvanizing force of any sort tho

at least not yet

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i downloaded that album but for some reason it doesn't play on my ipod

wil smif, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think you downloaded a cassette

v-shasty, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

really really digging the Tinariwen album

Yeah, it's great. I'd only heard a stray track or two in the past, but I liked this immediately.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Once more, Mastodon plays the part of the requisite metal album in the indie lists, despite being a fairly middle-of-the-road release for them.

Walruses is dumb (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spaceghostpurrp hasn't produced anything substantial yet. Certainly not the kind of thing that would show up on these lists

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 00:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's great. I'd only heard a stray track or two in the past, but I liked this immediately.

glad you dig this. they're a special band.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 03:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

The thing with the Mastodon album is that its easily the most accessible album they've done and I can totally see why this would be one that indie kids eat up. I was more surprised when the proggy-epic ones showed up.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 2 December 2011 04:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Q Tracks

20 Beady Eye 'The Morning Sun'
19 Example 'Changed The Way You Kissed Me'
18 Cat's Eyes 'Best Person I Know'
17 Wretch 32 'Traktor'
16 Ghostpoet 'Cash and Carry Machine'
15 Florence + The Machine 'Shake It Out'
14 Fleet Foxes 'Helplessness Blues'
13 Rihanna 'Man Down'
12 Chase & Status 'Blind Faith'
11 Jack White 'Love Is Blindness'
10 Lykke Li 'Get Some'
9 The Strokes 'Under The Cover of Darkness'
8 Tyler The Creator 'Yonkers'
7 Aloe Blacc 'I Need A Dollar'
6 The Vaccines 'If You Wanna'
5 Lady Gaga 'The Edge of Glory'
4 Foster The People 'Pumped Up Kicks'
3 KREAYSHAWN 'GUCCI GUCCI'
2 Lana Del Rey 'Video Games'
1 Adele 'Someone Like You'

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 2 December 2011 12:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Uncut Reissues / Comps / Boxsets

30 Suede - Suede
29 Nirvana - Nevermind
28 V/A - Delta Swamp Rock
27 Phil Spector - The Phillies Album Collection
26 Mercury Rev - Deseter's Songs
25 Richard Thompson - Live at The BBC
24 Donovan - Sunshine Superman
23 Caravan - In The Land of Grey and Pink
22 The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
21 The Louvin Brothers - Satan Is Real / Handpicked Songs 1955-1962
20 U2 - Achtung Baby
19 Manic Street Preachers - National Treasures: The Complete Singles
18 Kate and Anna McGarrigle - Tell My Sister
17 The Kinks - Kinks Kontroversy
16 Neil Young and The International Harvesters - A Treasure
15 V/A - Our Lives Are Shaped By What We Love: Motown's Mowest Story 1971-1973
14 Kate Bush - Director's Cut
13 Mark McGuire - A Young Person's Guide
12 Michael Chapman - Fully Qualified Survivor
11 Roy Harper - Stormcock
10 Jim Ford - Harlan County
9 Can - Tago Mago
8 Primal Scream - Screamadelica
7 R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant
6 Disco Inferno - The 5 EPs
5 The Jesus and Mary Chain - Darklands
4 Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
3 The Smiths - Complete
2 Mickey Newbury - An American Trilogy
1 The Beach Boys - The Smile Sessions

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 2 December 2011 12:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

no. 2's an interesting choice on that reissues list.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 12:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Funny how everyone scans over the metal list as "oh, well, they just cover metal so of course they're gonna have a list full of metal albums" yet every time something that just covers shitty indie has a list made up of shitty indie people are LIVID.

― Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:00

^^^^^^&&&&

nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

metal: the shitty indie it's OK to like

Fotherington Thomas, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT mag 10-1
http://www.factmag.com/2011/11/30/50-best-albums-of-2011-50-41/5/

10: FRANK OCEAN - NOSTALGIA, ULTRA. (SELF-RELEASED)
09: LV & JOSHUA IDEHEN - ROUTES (KEYSOUND)
08: JULIANNA BARWICK - THE MAGIC PLACE (ASTHMATIC KITTY)
07: DRAKE - TAKE CARE (CASH MONEY / UNIVERSAL)
06: JAMES FERRARO - FAR SIDE VIRTUAL (HIPPOS IN TANKS)
05: ARAABMUZIK - ELECTRONIC DREAM (DUKE)
04: PRURIENT - BERMUDA DRAIN (HYDRA HEAD)
03: CLAMS CASINO - INSTRUMENTALS (SELF-RELEASED / TYPE)
02: RUSTIE - GLASS SWORDS (WARP)
01: THE WEEKND - HOUSE OF BALLOONS (SELF-RELEASED)

the gas-cramp dilla (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ouch, that's a bad top ten

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I'm not nuts about some of those

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

They really love the Drake/Weeknd axis over there

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol y'all got trolled by FACT

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha are FACT delibrately trolling ILX?

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp

i love that araabmuzik album though

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that FACT list was super interesting until the top ten, then, ugh.

I <3 los kramupsinos! dn.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

this Rustie album is... okay? not the second-best album of the year tho

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

why wouldn't you put 'the Yankee Hotel Foxtrot of R'n'B' at #1?? Lol.

Juliana Barwick album is nice though, so I can't complain...

iagree (henrietta lacks), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Julianna Barwick and Clams Casino will be on my albums ballot...of the rest, 50% I haven't heard and 50% meh.

sean doily, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This is AraabMUZIK’s electronic dream, and if you don’t like it then you’re quite frankly having a nightmare."

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ Drake and the Weeknd. Clammy Clams will be on my ballot, though. And the James Ferraro is pretty good (would need to hear it more before I decide whether it's good enough for a ballot place, though).

Illia Rump (emil.y), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol FACT, i still love you.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

never got round to listening to the prurient what with horrible memories of the cold cave album still fresh in my head

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

This isn’t to say it’s an r’n'b album for indie kids

and yet the only other r&b album on the list is frank ocean lmao

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i fuck with the top 10 of that Q tracks list, improbably

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

(i like most of that fact top 10 including the weeknd)

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the fact top 10 is, uh, okay

i like 'house of balloons', but not that much

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

despite lex's best protest in march, it was not a big year for r&b full lengths, so i'm not surprised that stuff like the weeknd and frank ocean have filled the void a bit

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i get that fact likes to stay well within the tumblrverse but it is slightly weird putting frank ocean in your top 10 and not even giving a nod to like, beyonce (or did i miss this?)

but on other hand it means they don't cover kanye/jay which is nice.

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT should be, like, way more into lloyd than they are tho imo

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

yah otm

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

not even on some lex AYO CHECK OUT MARSHA AMRBOSIOUS, THIS SHIT IS SO MUCH BETTER but i'm surprised that they aren't checking for fun party songs w/ good beats all done by a single producer

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

MBDTF was FACT's number two album of last year and they gave WTT a pretty good review iirc

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

for some reason i keep thinking MBDTF was released this year duh

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was thinking "jesus, every song on this Araabmuzik album sounds exactly the same", then I looked at Spotify; I'd made it to track 2

now I'm just bemused that FACT ranked what sounds like an overlong dubsteppy Junkie-XL album the 5th-best album of the year

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK, so v-shasty isn't Steve Shasta.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the araabmuzik a lot -- it's cool to vibe too, idk -- it's def pretty same-y but i like when he does the laser tag keyboard thing and a lot of the samples are p cool

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

4. Mayer Hawthorne : How Do You Do?

From the Filter list--is this more than just retro blue-eyed soul? Haven't heard it yet...

Another Suburbanite, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the araabmuzik a lot -- it's cool to vibe too, idk -- it's def pretty same-y but i like when he does the laser tag keyboard thing and a lot of the samples are p cool

it's not BAD (I like Junkie-XL!), it's just... not what I was expecting

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's not his crazy MPC thing

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

from FACT, files this under "don't use wikipedia as a source"

The production values on Take Care really were staggering, and made even more impressive by the fact that whether it was Lex Luger, Just Blaze or Jamie xx

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

from FACT, file this under "people comparing 'take care' to the wrong kanye west album"

More than anything, this album was Drake’s College Dropout

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

From the Filter list--is this more than just retro blue-eyed soul? Haven't heard it yet...

No, but imho I think its really, really well done retro blue-eyed soul. I usually cringe at this shit, but my brother in law does some promo for Hawthorne and pushed the album on me and I found myself really liking it.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

alright, i take back anything nice i ever said

Like Outkast’s Stankonia before it, House of Balloons also appears to have brought everyone together this year

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

despite lex's best protest in march, it was not a big year for r&b full lengths

yet three of my top 10 are r&b, plus a further five in my top 30?

and the anthony hamilton isn't out yet either

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry lex, I am still staring in shock at the quote v-nasty posted otherwise I'd ask which 3 R&B albums you're repping (I'm guessing Marsha is one of them? She was on the Soul Train Music Awards last weekend and sounded really, really sick ;_;)

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

poor love.

Ou est la showaddywaddy (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

beyoncé, dawn richard, nikkiya, meshell ndegéocello, marsha ambrosius, goapele, raphael saadiq, diddy dirty money (r&b remix mixtape)

i'm not even that into the lloyd album compared with his past work (but it's still better than the weeknd/ocean OBV)

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

co-singing that goapele

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

i rep for trey songz anticipation 2

sisilafami, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

the musiq soulchild album was pretty good too, and the cherri v mixtape was excellent

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

and the anthony david album! this song is one of the best songs of the year full stop, amazing stuff

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah Musiq Soulchild, I played that album maybe three times and then forgot I owned it

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sure, ‘NY is Killing Me’ became annoyingly inescapable,

i've never heard this

gucc_ebooks (tpp), Friday, 2 December 2011 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love the Marsha Ambrosius record; it's held up well all year.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 December 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

beyoncé, dawn richard, nikkiya, meshell ndegéocello, marsha ambrosius, goapele, raphael saadiq, diddy dirty money (r&b remix mixtape)

i'm not even that into the lloyd album compared with his past work (but it's still better than the weeknd/ocean OBV)

― lex pretend, Friday, December 2, 2011 9:53 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is what i'm talking about in terms of a 'big' year for r&b, beyonce aside. saadiq and maybe ambrosius are household names, but the rest of them are kinda the FACT list for r&b heads

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i just came to the marsha album recently. 'far away'!!

of that FACT top 10, clams and araabmuzik will make my EOY list (the latter top ten, probably), still haven't listened to the rustie or prurient albums, FO and barwick didn't leave much of an impression on me, sort of avoiding weeknd/drake, haven't heard of the other two

silvana mangano, Friday, 2 December 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm wending my way through that NPR 'other sounds' list - if you like gorgeous ambient drifty things, that nicholas szczepanik album is wonderful

silvana mangano, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ Diddy Dirty Money being more obscure than homegirl from Floetry

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

well yeah. but the diddy dirty money remix mixtape is pretty far under the radar.

v-shasty, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh leave me my cheap lols, they're all I have

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

the real problem w/ the FACT list isnt the music they choose, which is w/e, but the aesthetic incoherency and the embarrassing way it seems to misunderstand/misevaluate its own constituency of tumblr whites

є(٥_ ٥)э, Friday, 2 December 2011 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

ClashMusic (UK) EOY 2011

http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/the-top-40-albums-of-2011

40. DANGER MOUSE / DANIELE LUPPI - ‘Rome’
39. WHEN SAINTS GO MACHINE - ‘Konkylie’
38. WOODEN SHJIPS - ‘West’
37. WAGON CHRIST - ‘Toomorrow’
36. RICHARD DONOSO - ‘Progress Chance’
35. RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - ‘I’m With You’
34. WHITE DENIM - ‘D’
33. KASABIAN - ‘Velociraptor!’
32. JAY-Z AND KANYE WEST - ‘Watch The Throne’
31. LITTLE DRAGON - ‘Ritual Union’
30. RYAN ADAMS - ‘Ashes And Fire’
29. MATTHEW HERBERT - ‘One Pig’
28. FLORENCE AND THE MACHINE - ‘Ceremonials’
27. THE LOW ANTHEM - ‘Smart Flesh’
26. BON IVER - ‘Bon Iver’
25. EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY - ‘Take Care, Take Care, Take Care’
24. BIBIO - ‘Mind Bokeh’
23. WILCO - ‘The Whole Love’
22. M83 - ‘Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming’
21. ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - ‘Replica’
20. DJ SHADOW - ‘The Less You Know The Better’
19. LYKKE LI - ‘Wounded Rhymes’
18. GRUFF RHYS - ‘Hotel Shampoo’
17. PLANNINGTOROCK - ‘W’
16. BEASTIE BOYS - ‘Hot Sauce Committee Part Two’
15. WILD BEASTS - ‘Smother’
14. KING CREOSOTE AND JON HOPKINS - ‘Diamond Mine’
13. FLEET FOXES - ‘Helplessness Blues’
12. BJÖRK - ‘Biophilia’
11. BEIRUT - ‘The Rip Tide’
10. ZOMBY - ‘Dedication’
9. MY MORNING JACKET - ‘Circuital’
8. ADELE - ‘21’
7. THE KILLS - ‘Blood Pressures’
6. METRONOMY - ‘The English Riviera’
5. RADIOHEAD - ‘The King Of Limbs'
4. BATTLES - ‘Gloss Drop’
3. PJ HARVEY - 'Let England Shake'
2. THE HORRORS - ‘Skying’
1. MODESELEKTOR - ‘Monkeytown’

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

wagon christ is still a thing?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post

tumblr whites

my new band's name

Another Suburbanite, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

it would be a good name for a laundry detergent

n/a, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

wagon christ is still a thing?

Yes, he's still going and he's become very, very boring.

I do like that Modeselektor album but it's not top ten material, let alone the best album of the year

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

best thom yorke record of 2011

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

wagon christ is still a thing?

This was exactly my reaction

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

saadiq and maybe ambrosius are household names

Whose households now?

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

BBC music writers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2011/12/bbc_music_writers_top_25_album.html

25 - Bright Eyes - The People's Key
24 - Laura Marling - A Creature I Don't Know
23 - Cold Cave - Cherish the Light Years
22 - Trap Them - Darker Handcraft
21 - The Decemberists - The King is Dead
20 - EMA - Past Life Martyred Saints
19 - Julianna Barwick - The Magic Place
18 - Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
17 - Kate Bush - 50 Words for Snow
16 - Anna Calvi - Anna Calvi
15 - Gil Scott-Heron & Jamie xx - We're New Here
14 - Drive-By Truckers - Go-Go Boots
13 - Katy B - On a Mission
12 - SBTRKT - SBTRKT
11 - Björk - Biophilia
10 - Iceage - New Brigade
9 - Bon Iver - Bon Iver
8 - Josh T Pearson - Last of the Country Gentlemen
7 - Beyoncé - 4
6 - Metronomy - The English Riviera
5 - Tom Waits - Bad as Me
4 - The Antlers - Burst Apart
3 - The Horrors - Skying
2 - Wild Beasts - Smother
1 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whose households now?

households that listen to R&B

Raphael Saddiq has been famous since Tony! Toni! Tone! and Floetry got a lot of exposure back in their day (not that I realized that's who Marsha was until this weekend).

man, that SBTRKT album is almost as overrated as that Bjork album

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really hate the SBTRKT album. Primarily cos of the vocals

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love "pharaohs" on the sbtrkt album but the rest of it, not really, and yeah mostly cuz of the vocals.

ambrosius got a #2 album in your country and two grammy nominations, that seems to indicate it's on a different level of success to eg the weeknd

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

households that listen to R&B

Oh, well, that's fair then. They're prominent R&B singers for sure. But I don't think of either of them as being crossover artists.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

she might not be a household name to indie audiences but who cares about them

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^ otm

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

surely to be a household name all types of audiences (including those who pay no attention to music) have to know who they are?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 2 December 2011 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

in a culture where ppl claim to never have heard of Lady Gaga, you are basically saying that there is no such thing as a household name

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

love it when people snootily dismiss artists as "not crossover" as if that absolves them from having to care about them, as if "crossover" is some sort of pinnacle that all artists should aim for, and as if "pitchfork-approved r&b" isn't so much crossover as a very specific niche itself

by love i do not mean love

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Michael who? Johnson? Is he the one who did that song about the Corvette?"

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

lex I think you are arguing a different point than was being made. Nobody was really trying to bring "crossover" into this, just saying that a standard working definition of "household name" usually means appealing to a wider audience than just the cross-section that would typically be aware of such a figure.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Exactly.

I'm not dismissing Ambrosius or Saadiq at all! In fact, I probably should listen to those albums since I've heard good things.

I'm just saying they're not household names. Like, my parents would have no idea who either of them are.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh god if we're going to the always-irrelevant "who have my parents heard of" argument, i don't think any pop star could be called a household name. i am fairly sure my parents have no idea who lady gaga is.

lex pretend, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

in a culture where ppl claim to never have heard of Lady Gaga, you are basically saying that there is no such thing as a household name

otm. this is pretty standard "death of the mononculture" stuff. my parents will only have heard of current music if it gets played on NPR, for example.

rob (night house), Friday, 2 December 2011 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm just using my parents as a stand-in for "reasonably well-informed people who aren't R&B fans."

I don't think "household name" implies recognition from 100% of the population, but it's got to be at least half. I think Lady Gaga and Beyonce have gotten to that point, but Ambrosius and Saadiq have not.

dyao think i'm sexy (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2011 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think, from context, you can infer the scope in which "household name" is being used very easily and therefore there's no need to say "a person can only be a household name if ppl who don't give a shit about them know they exist"

OH NOES, Friday, 2 December 2011 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rise Record (UK) EOY 2011

http://www.rise-music.co.uk/browse.php?campaign=AOTW

50.Summer Camp : Welcome To Condale
49.The Decemberists : The King Is Dead
48.James Blake : James Blake
47.King Creosote & Jon Hopkins : Diamond Mine
46.Gang Gang Dance: Eye Contact
45.Bill Callahan : Apocalypse
44.Wild Beasts : Smother
43.Zun Zun Egui : Katang
42.Planningtorock : W
41.Mastodon : The Hunter
40. Little Roy : Battle For Seattle
39.Deerhoof : Vs. Evil
38.Blood Orange : Coastal Grooves
37.Dutch Uncles : Cadenza
36.Cat's Eyes : S/T
35.Cults : S/T
34.Hyetal : Broadcast
33.E.M.A : Past Life Martyred Saints
32.Battles : Gloss Drop
31.Anna Calvi : Anna Calvi
30.Lanterns on the Lake : Gracious Tide, Take Me Home
29.Girls : Father, Son, Holy Ghost
28.Wilco : The Whole Love
27.Tom WaitsBad As Me
26.The Field : Looping State of Mind
25.Other Lives : Tamer Animals
24.Ryan Adams : Ashes & Fire
23.Fair Oh's: Everything Is Dancing
22.Ghostpoet: Peanut Butter Blues & Meloncholy Jam
21.White Denim : D
20.Wye OakCivilian
19.St. Vincent : Strange Mercy
18. Real Estate : Days
17.Lykke Li : Wounded Rhymes
16.Veronica Falls : Veronica Falls
15.Nicolas Jaar: Space Is Only Noise
14. Braids : Native Speaker
13.Wooden : ShjipsWest
12.Balam Acab : Wander / Wonder
11.Metronomy : The English Riviera
10. Shabazz : Palaces Black Up
9. Little Dragon : Ritual Union
8. Antlers : Burst Apart
7. P.J Harvey : Let England Shake
6. Kurt Vile : Smoke Ring For My Halo
5. Josh T. Pearson : Last Of The Country Gentlemen
4. Jonathan Wilson : Gentle Spirit
3. Walls : Coracle
2. Tune-Yards : w h o k i l l
1. War On Drugs : Slave Ambient

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

altered zones best albums

http://alteredzones.com/posts/2163/2011-albums/

Ash Borer: Ash Borer [Pesanta Urfolk]
Blues Control & Laraaji: FRKWYS Vol. 8 [RVNG Intl.]
The Caretaker: An Empty Bliss Beyond This World [Self-Released]
Death Grips: Exmilitary [Self-Released]
Future Shuttle: Water's Edge [Holy Mountain]
Holy Other: With U [Tri-Angle]
Iceage: New Brigade [Escho]
John Maus: We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves [Ribbon]
Julia Holter: Tragedy [Leaving]
Julian Lynch: Terra [Underwater Peoples]
Jurgen Muller: Science of the Sea [Foxy Digitalis]
Laurel Halo: Hour Logic [Hippos In Tanks]
Liturgy: Aesthethica [Thrill Jockey]
Oneohtrix Point Never: Replica [Software]
Peaking Lights: 936 [Not Not Fun]
Pete Swanson: Man With Potential [Type]
Prince Rama: Trust Now [Paw Tracks]
Pure X: Pleasure [Acéphale]
Run DMT: Dreams [Culture Dealer]
Tim Hecker: Ravedeath, 1972 [Kranky]

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 2 December 2011 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

08: JULIANNA BARWICK - THE MAGIC PLACE (ASTHMATIC KITTY)

heard this for the first time today, going through the FACT top 10, and the song "Prizewinning", near the end, absolutely floored me. i may be biased by the fact that i fell asleep with headphones and it woke me up out of an outstanding dream, but it's a beautiful song. the choral loops that characterize the album are complemented by a bit more rhythm than most of the other songs, via the repeating keyboard bass lines throughout and the addition of the snares that threaten to cave into themselves (nice subtle loopstation work) in the latter half of the song

Z S, Friday, 2 December 2011 23:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i heard the song building up during my dream and honestly felt like i had finally died and there was a better place

Z S, Friday, 2 December 2011 23:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha, i kind of like the altered zones list.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 December 2011 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

some really good stuff in that list

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

z s you should give julia kent's new record a listen, i think youd really like it

the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Death Grips: Exmilitary [Self-Released]

also this is p incredible, def hi up on my own list

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement

i think the statement is that korn sucks.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Julia Kent's Green and Grey? thanks lamp (you are a lamp, i think?), i'll check it out!

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

its certainly a FACT

xp

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Julia Kent's Green and Grey? thanks lamp (you are a lamp, i think?), i'll check it out!

yeah thats the one although 'delay' has some good stuff on it too. (and yes, lol)

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

So what you're saying lamp is that the indie-ish stuff that the FACT list trumpets (John Maus/Peaking Lights/GGD) are all kinda safe-bet capitulations to consensus?

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

its more that theyre nods to... idk 'consensus' has the wrong connotations, it feels more like cool-hunting i guess, which is always a risky proposition. its like a list of things theyve heard of rather than listened to or s.thing

i dont even really have a problem with a mag basically listing what they think are the hippest records of the year, it certainly has more merit than the whole faux humble 'these are just some records we really liked, guys!' thing which feels disingenuous w/anything but a single person's list. its more that i think FACT lacks any kind of aesthetic or worldview when theyre talking abt these kind of albums & its just like 'oohh that labels cool, yeah, prurient!' i mean why is 'logic hour' better than 'antenna', yknow?

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

its like a list of things theyve heard of rather than listened to or s.thing

there's no way you can know that, tho. i mean, by its nature, "consensus" will push to the margins the more individual, idiosyncratic choices.

btw, the sample song on that rustie album -- fact's no. 2 of 2011 -- is . . . okay.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha i wld bet real money that the FACT staff have actually listened to the records they voted for, my point was more that its not a list of 50 records that sits comfortably together in my eyes, and that the only real throughline is 'tumblr buzz' (sort of).

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 00:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't normally read FACT mag., but i have liked their year-end lists. this one does feel different, especially the top 10. not yet sure why.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 01:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Z S otm, Prizewinning is such a good moment on that album--the drums!

rob (night house), Saturday, 3 December 2011 02:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think i forgot to vote for death grips in the only thing i voted in this year u_u

dr. strongo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 02:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tbh FACT having five of my favorite albums of the year on their list made me feel a bit hip, but I might be a bit naïve if not oblivious as to the mechanics of tumblr buzz and other Internet-based realities

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

death grips bugs me because not liking their mixtape makes me feel old and uncool.

i tried listening to it about three times. each time i turned it off within about five minutes, and put on something like richard hawley instead.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 04:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

whew. great.

i like shannon and the clams, tho! they're cool.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 04:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't sweat it i'm young and cool and don't like death grips that much, either ;-)

:((((

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

<q>the alty zoney list kinda hilights my problem with the FACT list. like im sure whiney will be along to say something suitably cutting abt the lack of korn on that list but at least its a statement</q>

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like that john maus album a lot. i've returned to it on spotify about 10 times, maybe, and i really like the song cop killer.

i hate korn.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

the band, not the yellow vegetable.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, i don't believe everything i read.

i know, for instance, that that whole "bat-boy" story from the weekly world news isn't true.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, I really can only laugh when someone accuses me of being a sucker because I don't like Korn.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like, yeah, that massive internet conspiracy to fool me into thinking John Maus is better than a terrible nu-metal band grafting shitty brostep over their songs got me. Thanks Altered Zones!

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, I totally understand not liking Korn. I don't understand liking John Maus.

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i showed deathgrips to a friend who spent all of highschool trying to get me into k0rn and he loved it

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

The John Maus album is really just "okay", but even the worst track on their was miles ahead of the three Korn/Skrillex songs I heard.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

rights for gays oh yeah

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean their list is whatever, but i'm deeply, sincerely embarrassed for anyone who honestly think john maus is better than korn. it's pretty much just admitting you believe everything you read.

twitter is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people for how they shall think

are you whiney dw/it.gif? do you like cities aviv??

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Death Grips release is waaaay too harsh sounding, I can listen to like 1 song every other week or so.

Scotty Magee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

trying again with the death grips mixtape now.

i think it hear a 50s sample in one of the songs? the mixtape song is spread eagle, i think; sample is link wray, maybe.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

why does everyone think i'm whiney

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

VERY good question

v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

People actually like that Beastie Boys lp huh?

Scotty Magee, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Beastie Boys LP is dope

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, that mixtape is better than i first thought. got to be in the right mood for it, tho.

feel like i need to listen to the captain and tenille now.

maybe there should be a death-grips/captain-and-tenille collaboration.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG GOOGLE KORN FIND WIL SMIF

― v-shasty, Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:20 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol, isnt that how the bands name is spelled?

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

why does everyone think i'm whiney

well you have a similar posting style so i thought u might be

you can still tell me if you like cities aviv tho, im doing a survey

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's actually KoRn w/ a backwards R

v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

cities aviv suck

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i had always thought it was a backwards k... (xp)

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's supposed to be so that the K and R are facing each other

v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Korn (often stylized as KoЯn) is an American nu metal band from Bakersfield, California, formed in 1993.

v-shasty, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ko

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I...like the first two Korn albums OK, and I think the John Maus album is amazing...?

where do I stand in the freethinking olympics?

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 06:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

hustla, u and whiney should totally hang out sometime

Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 December 2011 07:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

my point was more that its not a list of 50 records that sits comfortably together in my eyes, and that the only real throughline is 'tumblr buzz'

EOY lists are not meant to have any sort of "throughline"!

seriously...y'all know how every EOY list is made? it really is as simple as just balloting writers. no publication can be bothered to rig or fix the results, or craft a list that "espouses" a "hivemind" or "worldview". and nor should they. when an EOY list is shit, the thing to criticise is the shit taste of its contributors.

i mean unless you're still hung up on p4k's bizarro hivemind-brand obsession but that is not how music crit should work.

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 08:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quite. John Maus and Cold Cave are obscenely high in The Quietus list. This is really irritating not only because I fucking loathe the John Maus album and mildly dislike the Cold Cave one but because that apparently some people will naturally presume that I'm just dropping those names to be hip and may not even have heard them.

I don't know about other sites but tQ takes up so much of my time I don't have that much time to worry about what other sites are doing. Most of my information on other digital publications comes from ILM or Twitter. It's hard to build up any kind of convincing picture of what other sites consider core.

There are some posters here who will choose their albums of the year with one eye on how this will present them and their taste in music which is a good thing in some ways but I'm not convinced that any significant number of music journo/editorial types have that level of sophistication (or time) to present themselves in such a manner.

There are (what I take to be) obviously a few 'cool lists' out there every year but I wouldn't have the confidence to state definitively which they are. After all, I know my two colleagues love the John Maus album as we've had blazing rows about it. This is certainly not an affectation on their part so how can I level this criticism at others... no matter how irritating I find it.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I were trying to construct a list that would have people take me more seriously btw, I wouldn't be repping for Obake and Cornershop I'd be repping for Beyonce and DJ Quik... it would be a lot easier for me to do this but I think the former are awesome and the latter merely good. But again that's only based on reading ILM not what other sites have to say.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

john maus was amazing long before the press decided to get on board, i think at least one or two other ilxors also had 'love is real' on their 2007 ballots.

magicrealism, Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am deeply, sincerely concerned for ppl on this board who have lost perspective to the extent that a korn/skrillex collaboration is eoty material

magicrealism, Saturday, 3 December 2011 10:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought that was just a running joke.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, you have to work on that assumption, otherwise you're looking at some serious Mayan end tymes shit going on right here. Or maybe there's more to this Insane Clown Posse remixed by Bently Rhythm Ace shit that I'm initially hearing.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

kmt at music journalists devoting attention to korn/skrillex either for the lulz (smh) or out of popularity-chasing desperation

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

good tactic for an irrelevant band like korn to gain some column inchezzz though

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

of all the criticisms I level at acts, "irrelevant" definitely makes me feel warmest inside

cutehound, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

you loathe the John Maus album, Doran? that's slightly disheartening (considering that the Quietus half-year list is how I first heard of it)

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay, here comes the big one....

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Total Guitar (UK) EOY 2011

01 Mastodon : The hunter
02 Foo Fighters : Wasting light
03 Japanese Voyeurs : Yok
04 Anna Calvi : Anna Calvi
05 Joe Bonamassa : Dust bowl
06 Rise Against : Endgame
07 Machine Head : Under the locust
08 Megadeth : Thirteen
09 Steve Cradock : Peace city west
10 Skindred : Urban black
11 Twin Atlantic : Free
12 Noel Gallaghers' High Flying Birds
13 Turbowolf : Turbowolf
14 Anthrax : Workshop music
15 Black Country Communion : II
16 Denis Coffey : Denis Coffey
17 Opeth : Heritage
18 Miles Kane : Colour of the trap
19 Funeral for a friend : Welcomme home Armagedon !
20 Tessercact : One
21 The Joy Formidable : The big roar
22 Sylesis : Edge of the earth
23 Vintage Trouble : The bomb shelter sessions
24 Trivium : In waves
25 Duane Eddy : Road trip
26 Alkaline trip : Damnesia
27 Death letter Circus : This is the warning
28 Dream Theater : A dramatic turns of events
29 Fleet Foxes : Helplessness blues
30 Johnathan Wilson : Gentle spirit
31 PJ Harvey : Let England shake
32 Social Distorsion : Hard Times & nursery rhymes
33 Elbow : Build a rocket boys !
34 Frankie & the Heartstrings : Tender
35 Evile : Five serpent's kiss
36 Pete Yorn : Pete Yorn
37 Rival Sons : Pressure & Tone
38 Russian Circles : Empros
39 White Denim : D
40 Amplifier : The octopus
41 Derek Sherinian : Oceana
42 The Answer : Revival
43 Gentlemans Pistols : At her majesty's pleasure
44 Letlive : Fake history
45 Mr Big : What if ...
46 Arch Enemy : Khaos Legions
47 Tedeshi Trucks Band : Revelator
48 The Dangerous Summer : War paint
49 We Are The Ocean : Go now and live
50 Philip Sayce : Ruby Electric

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

45 Mr Big : What if ...

lol we opened for these guys in August

dism-al-isms (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

totally disgusting that total guitar mag has only guitar music in their list

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

no publication can be bothered to rig or fix the results, or craft a list that "espouses" a "hivemind" or "worldview". and nor should they

yes they should. i mean maybe a generalist publication or daily paper can sorta get away with not having anything to say abt music except 'these X number of albums got made this year. we like them' but if yr publication isnt putting any thought into what yr eoy list says than maybe you dont need to make one

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is so depressing to me that anyone genuinely believs rigid, dogmatic bullshit like that

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

kind of like repping for an album is a political statement, as though what you're repping for are "values" or a "wider" "aesthetic" rather than the music - it doesn't acknowledge how consuming music is a messy and illogical affair, how stuff that moves you can come from any place or any aesthetic at any time, and that roping off an aesthetic is basically a mug's game

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

the music we talk abt on ilm/in these eoy lists is indivisible from the social/cultural/experiential context that envelops it. the 'values' (good word imo) that an album or song embody matter just as much as how a song sounds, really. pubs trying to front like all that matters are the formal qualities of ~~the music~~ are lying to themselves & their readers

anyway it doesnt make sense to me to divorce albums from context/taste and present them kinda sui generis or w/e

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Henrietta: It kind of doesn't matter what I think about it personally (and I probably shouldn't have said anything on here) but the thing is, Luke, who I co-run the site with and Rory, our third member of staff, both love it. Personally I can see that there's an interesting story there and a decent debate to be had and I'm more than happy to have them on the site.

Loathe is perhaps too strong a word but I wanted to pick the most extreme example I could think of. I feel the same way about Gang Gang Dance and Ariel Pink and a few other American bands from the last couple of years but for the most part, we're all extremely happy about our top 50.

This poster ^^ above me is talking out of his/her hat. Having a list that reflects your tastes doesn't mean you don't have anything to say about music. I look at it as the one chance in the year that we get to talk about music in a much less involved way.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

bullshit! that's entirely about pre-judging music based on a rigid "value system" that you're not prepared to admit is malleable or can be altered. that path is route one to eliminating all outliers and stuff that doesn't "fit" into your "value system"

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp obv

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean that is basically how rock crit has functioned for years and years - privileging certain value systems over others - and it has not led to anywhere good.

also, it's like...it boxes you in as a critic as well. "oh no this album doesn't represent my ~values~ i can't vote for it." fuck off!

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean lists of things are p fun to make i guess so w/e but i dont really see what possible value you two think your eoy lists have if they dont engage w/anything deeper

lol @ lex of all ppl fetting mad abt rigid value systems tho

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

and i mean the challenge isnt to discard albums you like from yr list because they dont fit but to engage w/ them so that you ~get~ why they fit w/ the system your already operating w/in

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

EOY lists don't "engage" with anything. they're lists. i "engage" with deeper things when i write words, hopefully. a list is just a list is just a list. in that great metaphor of a few weeks back, EOY lists are the glitter pens and unicorn stickers of music writing.

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually the EOY list is an opportunity to just throw my listening open and go "shorn of all the rhetoric i type over the year here's what i've actually been feeling and rinsing most"

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

and it's str8-up dishonest for an actual publication to game its results to fit some bullshit value system

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, we spend all of the year writing about this shit. If you're only interested in what you can glean from the EOY lists and not the debate that's been taking place all year leading up to them, well, that's kind of your problem.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont think thats de facto true, that eoy lists just have to be lists, and some lists do a better job than others. but overall yr right of course

idk the mag i write for you do a ballot but theres some manipulation i think, which im fine w/ if it makes the list more thoughtful

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

seriously...y'all know how every EOY list is made? it really is as simple as just balloting writers. no publication can be bothered to rig or fix the results, or craft a list that "espouses" a "hivemind" or "worldview".

― lex pretend, Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:25 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is so cute^^

HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

it strikes me that that's more about reinforcing the ~brand~ than pretending to engage with the deeper issues behind the music, otherwise why not engage with those issues explicitly? if you're gonna do that, be honest and write about why you've manipulated certain albums into your list, and certain albums out of it.

or y'know just do what every other publication does and don't game it because that's dumb.

would you really prefer say the ilm list to be manipulated to be more hivemindy? i really hope not

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i remember a few years back accusations that the NME swapped the #1 and #2 around

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

XP: To be fair, we don't ballot our writers because we know just doing the tQ list between the three of us will be closer to what the site's about (whatever that is). So maybe I should just stfu.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Having talked to a lot of people about this over the years, I get the feeling that ballot fixing used to be a lot more widespread than it is now. But the reasons would be less high minded than the ones outlined above and more to do with second guessing what the readers wanted.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

well isn't that why p4k (i assume this is the site our friend is talking about) "manipulates" its EOY list? to preserve its "brand" for its readership...

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

lex sorry but your eoy lists definitely espouse a worldview and brand

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

1) not consciously 2) i would be interested to know more about a worldview and brand that encompasses laura marling, meek mill and cher lloyd

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think there's a third way here. Taking this site as a prime example, our EoY is entirely democratic and I think that with as large and variegated a bunch of contributors that we have here, that there is any way that our list can be said to deliberately represent anything. And yet I absolutely believe that ILX's EoY lists reflect a very specific--almost idiosyncratic--set of 'values' that are constantly being scrutinized and often being modified from year to year.

I feel like Lamp's problem mostly is that the superficial inclusion of its token indie choices/blogsoul sit incongruously with what is usually a discernible deeper purpose within FACT, ...? But I've spent a lot of this thread misreading Lamp so

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw Doran: no problem. I just get the feeling that the John Maus record is going to be the trendy indie record that will be even more trendy to slag off. There's one or two of these every year; there's a few ppl in Outloud who really loved that record, and I finally gave in a few weeks ago and now it's one of my favorites...

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

think that would be redundant, i doubt anyone who's read your posts on ilm the past few years is really unclear on what that worldview is. there are people whose tastes seem genuinely less aesthetically cohesive, or more incidental, but i wouldn't say their lists are better for it. i imagine one of the many reason tim f's eoy track lists are so widely adored here is the way songs culled from so many disparate places form such a unique & appealing vision of pop

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

(xp to lex)

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Henrietta: I should go back and try it again I guess. A lot of people who I admire and trust like it, so I see it as a failing on my part in some ways. To not 'get' it. Like Skrillex, Cheap Trick and Derek Bailey.

Doran, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

how does everyone know who people are? i thought i was arguing with deej not lamp

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess everyone was listening to Peaking Lights all year and loving it, but i'm just now listening over the course of the last two days and this is shit is so rad. "Birds of Paradise dub version" might be my favorite song so far, but every song has merit. the distorted drums buried in the bg of "Summertime" are funky as hell if you concentrate on them.

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah great album

wil smif, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

lex you do realize that not every publication is general interest and lots of them have a slant towards specific genres or demographics? like TOTAL GUITAR magazine probably tells their writers "give us your top ten guitar albums of the year" the same way my paper in baltimore just had me tell them my top ten baltimore albums. that's not 'dishonest' or 'manipulative.'

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

obviously that becomes a little more complicated with something like pitchfork or the wire that kind of positions itself as being 'open-minded about the best music of any genre' or whatever but i think people reading their lists understand implicitly that there is a lot of conscious and unconscious branding going on

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

of course i get that, in explicit cases. but i would be interested to see a list of albums that would be considered unsuitable for the p4k or wire brands, and explicit reasoning why.

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i imagine it's much milder and more ambiguous than that -- individual voters strategizing, editors looking at stuff with similar numbers of votes toward the bottom of the list and making judgment calls about what makes the cut and what doesn't.

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the appeal of Pitiless Censors, musically, is the combination of echoey minor key vocals (which kind of remind me of some of the melodic content of late 60s garage rock and psychy with the specific synth arrangements

I feel like its the ascetic counterpart to the more libertine 1999

(xp to Doran)

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like Lamp's problem mostly is that the superficial inclusion of its token indie choices/blogsoul sit incongruously with what is usually a discernible deeper purpose within FACT, ...? But I've spent a lot of this thread misreading Lamp so

haha i just agree w/ you since your take always ends up more coherent :/

i guess my 'problem' with dorian and lex's take on the eoy list process is:

- we are all operating with an (unstated?) set of values that informs how we respond to music
- pop music is essentially experiential in nature
- for almost any publication their big eoy list will be one of the most viewed/widely talked abt pieces they run
- its intensely disingenuous to pretend this piece doesnt communicate something abt that underlying set of values, regardless of intent
- taking that into account why not knowingly craft a list that makes explicit these values and 'says something' abt what music is like in 2011 from yr pov
- to me 'branding' isnt really negative it helps the reader understand the context w/in which the music is generally being heard/understood

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

my problem with that is that any EOY list might communicate something about an individual's set of values - hopefully unconsciously! consciously doing it is nagl! - but publications can't unless they're REALLY EXPLICITLY genre-specific like kerrang or total guitar or whatever. because the value sets of all the individual critics are necessarily different.

in short - damned if you're going to extrapolate anything about MY value set from the guardian's EOY list.

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well the Guardian is a generalist publication

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

lex do you tend to prefer generalist music mags or specialist mags?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

well p4k or the wire or w/e operates editorially w/in a sort of guiding set of values tho too which is greater than just the sum of their writers values. a newspaper is slightly different in that it exists for different reasons & in some ways for different readers but like, FACT certainly has an overarching set of aesthetic and cultural values

є(٥_ ٥)э, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like you could probably extrapolate something about Lex's values from the ILX EoY tbh

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp generalist

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

fwiw I feel like FACT has always done the indie tokenism thing and are p decent at separating wheat from chaff when it comes to buzz albums. Like I don't think Is this It? was the second-best album from the past decade or anything but the indie albums they tout are usually the ones I end up enjoying.

Of course that's purely subjective and hardly unbiased I mean, as one of ILX's few vocal proponents for the Weeknd surely Lamp you get what I'm saying...?

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some more EOY lists from around the world:

Rumore (Italia) EOY 2011

RUMORE TOP ALBUM 2011

1) James Blake - s/t
2) PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
3) Bon Iver - s/t
4) Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
5) Verdena - Wow
6) Radio Moscow - The Great Escape Of Leslie Magnafuzz
7) I Cani - Il Sorprendente Album D'esordio
8) The Rapture - In The Grace Of Your Love
9) Saviours - Death's Procession
10) Danava - Emisphere Of Shadows
11) Orchid - Capricorn
12) The Might Could - s/t
13) The Horrors - Skying
14) The Peoples Temple - Sons Of Stone
15) Paolo Benvegnù - Hermann
16) Obrero - Mortui Vivos Docent
17) tUnE-yArDs - Whokill
18) Devil - Time To Repent
19) Blood Ceremony - Living With The Ancients
20) Rival Sons - Pressure And Time

Fasterlouder (AUS) EOY 2011

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/gallery/snapshot/25641/The-Best-Albums-of-2011

50 Radiohead - King of Limbs.
49 Wagons – Rumble, Tumble and Shake.
48 Charles Bradley - No Time For Dreaming.
47 The Kills – Blood Pressures.
46 The Strokes – Angles.
45 My Morning Jacket – Circuital.
44 The Vasco Era – The Vasco Era.
43 Eagle and the Worm – Good Times.
42 Foster The People. Torches.
41 EMA - Past Life Martyred Saints.
40 Wilco – The Whole Love.
39 The Grates - Secret Rituals.
38 Teeth and Tongue – Tambourine.
37 tUnE-yArDs - W H O K I L L.
36 Iron and Wine - Kiss Each Other Clean.
35 The Black Keys – El Camino.
34 Gotye – Making Mirrors.
33 Kimbra – Vows.
32 The Panics – Rain on the Humming Wire.
31 Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds – Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds.
30 Arctic Monkeys – Suck It and See.
29 Dum Dum Girls – Only in Dreams.
28 Metronomy - The English Riviera.
27 Battles – Gloss Drop.
26 Kurt Vile – Smoke Ring for My Halo.
25 Wild Beasts – Smother
24 Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues.
23 Gillian Welch – The Harrow and the Harvest.
22 Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks – Mirror Traffic.
21 Feist – Metals.
20 Cut Copy – Zonoscope.
19 Jay- Z And Kanye West – Watch The Throne.
18 Laura Marling – A Creature I Don’t Know.
17 Liam Finn – FOMO.
16 Girls – Father, Son, Holy Ghost.
15 Lanie Lane – To the Horses.
14 SBTRKT – SBTRKT.
13 Wild Flag – Wild Flag.
12 Mastodon – The Hunter.
11 James Blake – James Blake.
10 TV on the Radio – Nine Types of Light.
09 Royal Headache – Royal Headache.
08 Bon Iver – Bon Iver, Bon Iver.
07 Harmony – Harmony.
06 Yuck - Yuck.
05 Fucked Up – David Comes To Life.
04 Adalita – Adalita.
03 Tom Waits – Bad As Me.
02 Unknown Mortal Orchestra – Unknown Mortal Orchestra.
01 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake.

Blitz EOY 2011 (Portugal) albums

50 - The Dodos: No color
49 - Mastodon: The Hunter
48 - Bill Callahan: Apocalypse
47 - Zomby: Dedication
46 - Wild Flag: Wild Flag
45 - TV on the Radio: Nine Types of Light
44 - Toro Y Moi: Underneath the Pine
43 - Patrick Wolf: Lupercalia
42 - David Sylvian: Died In Wool
41 - SBTRKT: SBTRKT
40 - Jessica Lea Mayfield: Tell Me
39 - Radiohead: The King of Limbs
38 - Gang Gang Dance: Eye Contact
37 - The Weeknd: House of Balloons
36 - Smith Westerns: Dye It Blonde
35 - Friendly Fires: Pala
34 - Florence and the Machine: Ceremonials
33 - The Field: Looping State Of Mind
32 - tUnE-yArDs: w h o k i l l
31 - Tinariwen: Tassili
30 - Justice: Audio, Video, Disco
29 - Metronomy: The English Riviera
28 - Afrocubism: Afrocubism
27 - Trap Them: Darker Handcarft
26 - Coldplay: Mylo Xyloto
25 - Chico Buarque: Chico
24 - Lykke Li: Wounded Rhymes
23 - Feist: Metals
22 - Wild Beasts: Smother
21 - Low: C'mon
20 - Jamie Won: Mirrorwriting
19 - Diddy Dirty Money: Last Train To Paris
18 - Jonathan Wilson: Gentle Spirit
17 - Britney Spears: Femme Fatale
16 - Beyoncé: 4
15 - Tyler, the Creator: Goblin
14 - Katy B: On a Mission
13 - Anna Calvi: Anna Calvi
12 - Destroyer: Kaputt
11 - WU LYF: Go Tell Fire to the Mountain
10 - Adele: 21
9 - Tom Waits: Bad As Me
8 - Laura Marling: A Creature I Don't Know
7 - Kurt Vile: Smoke Ring For My Halo
6 - Stephen Malkmus And The Jicks: Mirror Traffic
5 - Bon Iver: Bon Iver
4 - Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues
3 - Nicolas Jaar: Space Is Only Noise
2 - PJ Harvey: Let England Shake
1 - James Blake: James Blake

Sonic EOY 2011 (Sweden)

1. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
2. Gillian Welch - The Harrow & the Harvest
3. My Morning Jacket - Circuital
4. Paul Simon - So Beautiful or So What
5. Lykke Li - Wounded Rhymes
6. James Blake - James Blake
7. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
8. Ryan Adams - Ashes & Fire
9. Tinariwen - Tassili
10. Feist - Metals
11. Bon Iver - Bon Iver
12. The Weeknd - House of Baloons
13. Shabazz Palace - Black Up
14. Wilco - The Whole Love
15. Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
16. A. A. Bondy - Believers
17. Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring for My Halo
18. Adele - 21
19. Tim Hecker - Ravedeath, 1972
20. Tyler, The Creator - Goblin
21. Deportees - Islands & Shores
22. Zomby - Dedication
23. Ison & Fille - För evigt
24. Holy Ghost! - Holy Ghost!
25. Jonathan Johansson - Klagomuren

American Songwriter (USA) EOY 2011

American Songwriter

50 - Centro-matic: Candidate Waltz
49 - Beirut: The Rip Tide
48 - Abigail Washburn: City of Refuge
47 - Caitlin Rose: Own Side Now
46 - Loney Dear: Hall Music
45 - JEFF The Brotherhood: We Are The Champions
44 - Tristen: Charlatans At The Garden Gate
43 - Jonny Corndawg: Down On The Bikini Line
42 - Noel Gallagher: Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
41 - Kurt Vile: Smoke Ring For My Halo
40 - Middle Brother: Middle Brother
39 - Those Darlins: Screws Get Loose
38 - Real Estate: Days
37 - Steve Earle: I’ll Never Get Out Of This World Alive
36 - Old 97′s: The Grand Theatre, Vol. 2
35 - KORT: Invariable Heartache
34 - Joe Henry - Reverie
33 - Honeyhoney: Billy Jack
32 - The Decemberists: The King Is Dead
31 - Robert Ellis: Photographs
30 - The Felice Brothers: Celebration, Florida
29 - A. A. Bondy: Believers
28 - St. Vincent: Strange Mercy
27 - Deer Tick: Divine Providence
26 - Pieta Brown: Mercury
25 - Sarah Jarosz: Follow Me Down
24 - The War On Drugs: Slave Ambient
23 - Civil Wars: Barton Hollow
22 - Bright Eyes: The People’s Key
21 - Fleet Foxes: Helplessness Blues
20 - Laura Marling: A Creature I Don't Know
19 - Radiohead: The King of Limbs
18 - Ryan Adams: Ashes & Fire
17 - Jessica Lea Mayfield: Tell Me
16 - Miranda Lambert: Four The Record
15 - Bon Iver: Bon Iver
14 - My Morning Jacket: Circuital
13 - Lucinda Williams: Blessed
12 - Jason Isbell & The 400 Unit: Here We Rest
11 - Tom Waits: Bad As Me
10 - Feist: Metals
9 - The Black Keys: El Camino
8 - Pistol Annies: Hell on Heels
7 - Paul Simon: So Beautiful or So What
6 - Hayes Carll: KMAG YOYO
5 - Dawes: Nothing Is Wrong
4 - Drive-By Truckers: Go-Go Boots
3 - Adele: 21
2 - Gillian Welch: The Harrow And The Harvest
1 - Wilco: The Whole Love

Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

lot of people like fleet foxes and bon iver huh

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh, this Psychic Paramount is PAINFUL it's so good!

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

by "this" i just mean the song ("N5") that's streaming on the NPR list: http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2011/11/30/142900901/the-best-outer-sound-albums-of-2011?sc=tw&cc=share

i'm gonna have to check the rest of this out.

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

put this on while you do your dishes and you will scrub the coffee mugs with an inappropriate level of unbridled passion

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Awesome record.

Mr. Farmer, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey Z S since you already dig the J barwick and Peaking Lights album, you could probably do worse than to check out the Belong album from this year; its on Spotify. It's imo a really solid dreampop/drone album

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, glad you reminded me of that! i actually had downloaded it earlier this year and loved it (certain tracks more than others, but i definitely had a few key favorites), and then when my computer melted down a few months ago, i lost everything and forgot to redownload it.

Z S, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that entire Psychic Paramount record is so great.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

cltrl-F "hatchback" = :(

destroyer v v underrepresented thus far as well

magicrealism, Saturday, 3 December 2011 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's always the ilm eoy poll. Maybe the first ever rock winner?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Saturday, 3 December 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugggh that Deer Tick record that has popped up a few times is such shit.

Simon H., Saturday, 3 December 2011 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some decent breakout lists from Exclaim (CA) EOY 2011

http://exclaim.ca/Features/YearInReview

Top Pop Rock
1. Bon Iver : Bon Iver, Bon Iver (Jagjaguwar)
2. St. Vincent : Strange Mercy (4AD)
3. Feist : Metals (Arts and Crafts)
4. M83 : Hurry Up, We're Dreaming (Mute)
5. Destroyer : Kaputt (Merge)
6. Braids : Native Speaker (Flemish Eye)
7. Austra : Feel it Break (Domino)
8. PJ Harvey : Let England Shake (Island)
9. Timber Timbre : Creep On Creepin' On (Arts & Crafts)
10. Sandro Perri : Impossible Spaces (Constellation)
11. Wild Flag (Merge)
12. Shotgun Jimmie : Transistor Sister (You've Changed)
13. The Pains of Being Pure at Heart : Belong (Slumberland)
14. Beirut : The Rip Tide (Pompeii)
15. Girls : Father, Son, Holy Ghost (True Panther Sounds)
16. Bill Callahan : Apocalypse (Drag City)
17. Yuck (Fat Possum)
18. Rich Aucoin : We're All Dying To Live (Sonic)
19. Tom Waits : Bad As Me (Anti-)
20. Battles : Gloss Drop (Warp)
21. Ty Segall : Goodbye Bread (Drag City)
22. Lykke Li : Wounded Rhymes (LL)
23. Adele : 21 (Columbia)
24. Handsome Furs : Sound Kapital (Sub Pop)
25. Cults (Columbia)
26. EMA : Past Life Martyred Saints (Souterrain Transmissions)
27. Dog Day : Deformer (Fun Dog)
28. Kurt Vile : Smoke Ring For My Halo (Matador)
29. Wilco The Whole Love (dbpm)
30. The Rural Alberta Advantage Departing (Paper Bag)

Top Metal
1. KEN : Mode Venerable (Profound Lore)
2. Mastodon : The Hunter (Reprise)
3. Fuck the Facts : Die Miserable (Relapse)
4. Wolves In The Throne : Room Celestial Lineage (Southern Lord)
5. Today is the Day : Pain is a Warning (Black Market Activities)
6. Liturgy : Aesthethica (Thrill Jockey)
7. Hammers of Misfortune : 17th Street (Metal Blade)
8. Opeth : Heritage (Roadrunner)
9. Imbroglio : Sleep Deprivation (The Path Less Traveled)
10. Brutal Truth : End Time (Relapse)
11. Graf Orlock : Doombox (Vitriol)
12. Black Tusk : Set the Dial (Relapse)
13. Helms Alee Weatherhead (Hydra Head)
14. Prurient : Bermuda Drain (Hydra Head)
15. The Atlas Moth An : Ache for the Distance (Profound Lore)
16. Flourishing : The Sum of All Fossils (The Path Less Traveled)
17. Retox : Ugly Animals (Ipecac)
18. Tombs : Path of Totality (Relapse)

Top Hip-Hop
1. Kanye West : My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (Roc-A-Fella)
2. Jay-Z and Kanye West : Watch The Throne (Roc-A-Fella)
3. Shabazz Palaces : Black Up (Sub Pop)
4. D-Sisive Jonestown 2: Jimmy Go Bye Bye (Urbnet)
5. Big K.R.I.T. : Return of 4eva (mixtape)
6. Kendrick Lamar : Section 80 (Top Dawg Entertainment)
7. Danny Brown XXX (Fools Gold)
8. Tyler, the Creator: Goblin (XL)
9. Talib Kweli :Gutter Rainbows (Blacksmith)
10. Phonte : Charity Starts at Home (The Foreign Exchange)
11. Lil B : I'm Gay (I'm Happy) (mixtape)
12. Childish Gambino : EP (mixtape)
13. ASAP Rocky : LiveLoveA$AP (mixtape)
14. Nicki Minaj : Pink Friday (Cash Money/Universal)
15. Stalley : Lincoln Way Nights (Intelligent Trunk Music)
16. G-Side The One…. Cohesive (mixtape)

Top Punk
1. Fucked Up : David Comes to Life (Matador)
2. OFF! : The First Four EPs (Vice)
3. Iceage : New Brigade (What's Your Rupture?)
4. Bomb The Music Industry! : Vacation (Quote Unquote)
5. Junior Battles : Idle Ages (Paper + Plastick)
6. B-Lines (Deranged)
7. Obits : Moody, Standard and Poor (Sub Pop)
8. The Wonder : Years Suburbia I've Given You All and Now I'm Nothing (No Sleep)
9. Cloud Nothings (Carpark)
10. Polar Bear Club : Clash Battle Guilt Pride (Bridge Nine)
11. Lemuria Pebble (Bridge Nine)
12. The Brains : Drunk Not Dead (Stomp)
13. Crusades : The Sun Is Down and the Night Is Riding In (It's Alive)
14. Bridge and Tunnel : Rebuilding Year (No Idea)

Top Folk-Country
1. The Decemberists : The King Is Dead (Capitol)
2. Dan Mangan : Oh Fortune (Arts & Crafts)
3. Laura Marling: A Creature I Don't Know (Domino)
4. One Hundred Dollars : Songs of Man (Outside)
5. Snailhouse : Sentimental Gentleman (White Whale)
6. Gillian Welch : The Harrow & the Harvest (Acony)
7. Richard Buckner : Our Blood (Merge)
8. The Deep Dark Woods : The Place I Left Behind (Six Shooter)
9. Daniel Romano : Sleep Beneath the Willow (You've Changed)
10. The Barr Brothers (Secret City)
11. Sunparlour Players : Us Little Devils (Outside)
12. Nick Lowe : The Old Magic (Yep Roc)
13. Ryan Adams : Ashes & Fire (Pax-Am)
14. The Jayhawks : Mockingbird Time (Rounder)
15. Hayes Carll: KMAG YOYO (& Other American Stories) (Lost Highway)
16. Jenn Grant : Honeymoon Punch (Six Shooter)

Top World & Soul
1. The Weeknd : House of Balloons (OVO)
2. tUnE-yArDs : WhoKill (4AD)
3. Raphael Saadiq : Stone Rollin' (Columbia)
4. Frank Ocean : Nostalgia, ULTRA (Def Jam)
5. Charles Bradley : No Time For Dreaming (Dunham)
6. Toro Y Moi : Underneath the Pine (Carpark)
7. The Stepkids (Stones Throw)
8. Mayer Hawthorne : How Do You Do? (Universal Republic)
9. Cee Lo Green : The Lady Killer (Elektra)
10. Aline Morales : Flores Tambores E Amores (Independent)
11. Beyonce : 4 (Columbia)
12. Seun Kuti : From Africa with Fury: Rise (Knitting Factory)
13. Jill Scott : Light Of the Sun (Warner)
14. Gil Scott-Heron & Jamie XX : We're New Here (XL)
15. Jazzy Jeff & Ayah : Back For More (Independent)
16. Jahdan Blakkamoore : Babylon Nightmare (Lustre Kings)

Top Dance & Electronic
1. James Blake (Atlas)
2. Nicolas Jaar : Space Is Only Noise (Circus Company)
3. SBTRKT (Young Turks)
4. Oneohtrix Point Never : Replica (Software)
5. Rustie : Glass Swords (Warp)
6. Amon Tobin : Isam (Ninja Tune)
7. The Field : Looping State of Mind (Kompakt)
8. Little Dragon : Ritual Union (Peacefrog)
9. Gang Gang Dance : Eye Contact (4AD)
10. Africa Hitech : 93 Million Miles (Warp)
11. Katy B : On A Mission (Rinse)
12. Hudson Mohawke : Satin Panthers (Warp)
13. Junior Boys : It's All True (Domino)
14. Zomby : Dedication (4AD)
15. Babe Rainbow : Endless Path (Warp)
16. Ford & Lopatin : Channel Pressure (Software)
17. Jamie Woon : Mirrorwriting (Polydor)
18. Miracle Fortress : Was I The Wave? (Secret City)
19. Azari & III (Turbo)
20. Toddla T : Watch Me Dance (Ninja Tune)

Sanpaku, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

most of those are garbage

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm glad the weeknd is being singled out for the 'world & soul' album of the year

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 02:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's canadian so

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, is there an actual honest to goodness country album on "folk-country"

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah those lists are pretty pathetic

k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2011 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

4. D-Sisive Jonestown 2: Jimmy Go Bye Bye (Urbnet)

wtf is this

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 5 December 2011 04:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kinda pissed that the Sunny Sweeney album didn't make it onto the American Songwriters list tbh.

Xp no idea lol

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Monday, 5 December 2011 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol exclaim! is the absolute worst, despite being free i somehow always regret picking up a copy

wil smif, Monday, 5 December 2011 06:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol at how you can tell the metal list was typed up by someone who has never heard of any of the bands or albums

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 5 December 2011 09:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rumba (FI) EOY 2011

Finnish songs
1. Regina: Jos et sä soita
2. Rubik: Laws of Gravity
3. The New Tigers: Pocketful of Sand
4. Regina: Unessa
5. Regina: Haluan sinut
6. Mirel Wagner: No Death
7. Burning Hearts: Into the Wilderness
8. Rubik: World Around You
9. Sansa: Boys (Summertime Love)
10. Chisu: Kohtalon oma
11. Suvi Isotalo: Kaikki sanat
12. Matti Johannes Koivu: 80-luvun lapset
13. Yona: Toisen oma
14. Regina: Lepään aalloilla
15. Black Twig: Lake Song
16. 22-Pistepirkko: UFO Girl
17. Chisu: Sabotage
18. Stella: Kutsumattomat vieraat jääkää kotiin
19. Regina: Mustavalkeaa
20. Rubik: Storm in a Glass of Water
21. Freeman: Tuhatjalkainen
22. Supo: Se tulee olemaan helppoo
23. Shine 2009: So Free
24. Jätkäjätkät: Uusi moottoritie
25. Von Hertzen Brothers: Miracle

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've heard of one of those bands, go me

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

seriously...y'all know how every EOY list is made? it really is as simple as just balloting writers. no publication can be bothered to rig or fix the results, or craft a list that "espouses" a "hivemind" or "worldview".

― lex pretend, Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:25 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

this is so cute^^

― HUSTLA DA =:3 (dealwithit.gif), Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:49 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Permalink

the thing is that because of the vvv few 'notorious' (used relatively obv) examples of that kind of manipulation, you get rafts of messageboard blowhards thinking they have some sort of 'industry understanding' and that every single publication anywhere crafts its polls to reflect a personal brand

whereas in fact most of them don't even have enough of a defined brand to make it in anyway worthwhile, and even if they did what would flipping around two ho-hum indie records on a list of 40 or whatever actually tell anyone

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 5 December 2011 10:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

That the magazine wants to 'keep in' with Noel rather than Liam?

Bela Lugosi's Derrida (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 5 December 2011 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quietus list has gone up:

http://thequietus.com/articles/07520-quietus-albums-of-the-year-2011

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 11:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really need to hear the Cut Hands record.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

GORILLA VS. BEAR | Albums of 2011

30 Nicolas Jaar | Space Is Only Noise
29 Andy Stott | Passed Me By
28 The Weeknd | House of Balloons
27 Clams Casino | Instrumentals
26 Schoolboy Q | Setbacks
25 Elite Gymnastics | Ruin 1 + 2
24 Run DMT | Dreaming
23 Burial | Street Halo
22 Mina Tindle | Mina Tindle
21 Young Galaxy | Shapeshifting
20 Toro y Moi | Freaking Out
19 Pure X | Pleasure
18 Ford & Lopatin | Channel Pressure
17 Washed Out | Within and Without
16 Darkside | Darkside
15 Holy Other | With U
14 The Caretaker | An Empty Bliss Beyond This World
13 Grouper | A I A
12 Sleep ∞ Over | Forever
11 The Sandwitches | Mrs. Jones’ Cookies
10 Puro Instinct | Headbangers in Ecstasy
09 Julianna Barwick | The Magic Place
08 Real Estate | Days
07 araabMUZIK | Electronic Dream
06 Korallreven | An Album By Korallreven
05 A$AP Rocky | LIVELOVEA$AP
04 White Denim | D
03 Panda Bear | Tomboy
02 Peaking Lights | 936
01 Shabazz Palaces | Black Up

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

as much as i absolutely ADORE a couple of sleep over tracks, there's no way that album is top fifteen material.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 12:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Funny so many places are rating Shabazz Palaces and not Death Grips, IMO.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're totally different though

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Panda Bear album's really good. Miles better than Merriweather or pretty much any AC album since Feels.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

NN: Maybe so - I've only really scraped the surface of those but they both fall into the undie-hop (or whatever it is) category afaik and the Death Grips sounds so much more interesting to these ears.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

undie-hop

please tell me this is a typo. there's a genre called undie-hop now?

;_;

lebateauivre, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, err.. i think it's an old term that used to get applied to people like Cannibal Ox to mean "underground hiphop". Backpacker hiphop was another, more derogatory term. i know shit all about hiphop on the whole, so i could be talking bull...

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well the Shabazz album is a lot less confrontational than the Death Grips so it doesn't surprise me that it's found a wider audience and I suppose coming out on Sub Pop hasn't hurt it's profile either. It's a great record though so who cares really?

Number None, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't shooting the messenger DL :)

lebateauivre, Monday, 5 December 2011 12:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's ours for people who don't actually want to visit the site:

1. PJ Harvey Let England Shake
2. Azari & III Azari & III
3. Tim Hecker Ravedeath 1972
4. The Haxan Cloak The Haxan Cloak
5. Perc Wicker & Steel
6. Cut Hands Afro Noise
7. Katy B On A Mission
8. Wild Beasts Smother
9. Death Grips Ex Military
10. Prurient Bermuda Drain
11. Årabrot Solar Anus
12. Laurel Halo Hour Logic
13. Sandwell District Feed Forward
14. John Maus We Must Become The Pitiless Censors Of Ourselves
15. Cold Cave Cherish The Light Years
16. Alexander Tucker Dorwytch
17. Pinch & Shackleton Pinch & Shackleton
18. Mastodon The Hunter
19. Oneohtrix Point Never Replica
20. Cornershop The Double O Groove
21. John Foxx & The Maths Interplay
22. My Disco Little Joy
23. Frank Ocean Nostalgia/Ultra
24. Uncle Acid And The Deadbeats Blood Lust
25. Hype Williams One Nation
26. Leyland Kirby Eager To Tear Apart The Stars
27. EMA Past Life Martyred Saints
28. Yob Atma
29. Destroyer Kaputt
30. Roly Porter Aftertime
31. Battles Gloss Drop
32. The Fall Ersatz GB
33. Zun Zun Egui Katang
34. Fucked Up David Comes To Life
35. Snowman Absence
36. Clams Casino Instrumentals
37. Obake Obake
38. Elzhi Elmatic
39. Aidan Moffat & Bill Wells Everything Is Getting Older
40. The Master Musicians Of Bukkake Totem Three
41. Thurston Moore Demolished Thoughts
42. Wolves In The Throne Room Celestial Lineage
43. British Sea Power Valhalla Dancehall
44. Bjork Biophilia
45. Skull Defekts ft. Daniel Higgs Peer Amid
46. Maria Minerva Cabaret Cixous
47. Mogwai Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will
48. Byetone Symeta
49. Amebix Sonic Mass
50. Liturgy Aesthetica

Doran, Monday, 5 December 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just finished reading through the Quietus. I've been on vacation without web this past week, so I've got some catching up to do. Glad to see this thread in the sandbox.

With the Quietus post on my FnB FB page I wrote:

'One of the best lists you'll see from any publication, web or print. It's interesting that PJ Harvey topped it. I can't complain, she's one of my favorite artists, but while the uniqueness of her album is an accomplishment, I can't pretend to like her choices such as substituting a twee little-girl voice for her normally thunderous pipes. The switch-up to autoharp and saxophone may keep some people interested, but the music is too demure for my tastes. Nice to see Mastodon and Uncle Acid & the Deadbeats. It's strange that Quietus never got on board for White Denim or TVOTR, but it makes their lists all the more unique, with about a dozen albums I still need to check out.'

Strange is probably not the right word, nor surprised. TVOTR's domination of previous polls makes them clearly not cool to like anymore, heh. That's alright, as long as they kept expanding their audience, I would hope. Not sure that they did though.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Funny so many places are rating Shabazz Palaces and not Death Grips, IMO.

― dog latin, Monday, December 5, 2011 7:10 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

i'd actually heard of shabazz palaces before last week fwiw

i already regret not just being 'some dude' again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure that this is the place to ask this but is the new miranda lambert worth hearing? i haven't heard anything about it, or even really realized there was a new one until i saw it on the american songwriter list.

Mordy, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes it is. especially "mama's broken heart" and "dear diamond". mordy did you hear the pistol annies album too?

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

four the record might well be the worst album title by an artist i like of 2011 though.

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't see what's so great about TVOTR - they seem like the middle-ground or the centre-point or the culmination between a whole load of acts who grew popular around the time - everything from Oneida to Wilco to Animal Collective. As such I see why they might be popular as a "default" US alterna-band as viewed by those not really invested in that kind of music, but they're just so boring.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

What are White Denim like? I don't like the name...

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a massive TVOTR fan (I just bought Dear Science last week) but I stumbled across them doing an outdoor live show in Boston a few years ago and they were captivating, sonically and visually (ie, it was odd and exciting to see close to a thousand people in a plaza watching a mostly black group playing Radioheadish music).

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like TVOTR for the songs, not for what ground or point they supposedly represent. I don't think they sound like any of those other bands.

White Denim change a bit every album, but they are kind of what I wished Meat Puppets would have evolved into in the late 80s. Chaotically psychedelic guitar riffery, occasional sweet melodies, vocals the evolve and improve every record.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

dear science is awes

your voice of treason, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did hear they're great live, yeah. But I dunno, I've tried listenign to TVOTR and I struggle to get through a whole song. They make me itchy.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure that this is the place to ask this but is the new miranda lambert worth hearing? i haven't heard anything about it, or even really realized there was a new one until i saw it on the american songwriter list.

Definitely worth hearing, but it's a minor record. She saved her best songwriting for the Pistol Annies project.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard Pistol Annies either. i'll have to check out both

Mordy, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

pistol annies is my #4 album of the year. just a brilliant, brilliant record, so concise but every word and note is necessary.

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are they like?

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Imagine the Trio project (Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harrirs, and Linda Ronstadt) with sharp self-written songs about rural working class life.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

this year's finest recession album too

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

The White Denim album really is excellent, so much going on in each song.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, is there an actual honest to goodness country album on "folk-country"

― v-shasty, Sunday, December 4, 2011

Just alt-country-- but of course I am sure they would foolishly insist that this is the real stuff, and that Toby Keith and Miranda Lambert are not.

Another Suburbanite, Monday, 5 December 2011 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mordy you shd def check out the Sunny Sweeney album too, although the first three songs are the most worth hearing imo

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Monday, 5 December 2011 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

the gorilla vs bear schmo being super into ASAP rocky is pretty hilarious

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like White Denim. I usually hate garage rock and they manage to do interesting stuff within the genre but even so it's not end of year stuff.

TVOTR... What happened to them? I thought they were going to be awesome when I first heard them in 2003. The Young Liars EP was bad ass, like an anticon thing with tunes and good singing but it's been a case of diminishing returns ever since. I always want them to come good but everything's a bit too tasteful. The Wilco comparison is a good one. They're obviously a good band with talented members etc but I can't imagine ever thinking, 'Man, I can't wait to get home so I can listen to the new TVOTR album...'

I think there's a really good point for PJH's singing style on the new album but that's probably a different discussion for a different day.

Doran, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

"tasteful" is the word. they do what they do and they do it well, but i've never noticed them going above and beyond their remit. i'd def like to be proven wrong.

dog latin, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure that this is the place to ask this but is the new miranda lambert worth hearing?

Very worth hearing. I'm afraid I am once more having to accept that I just don't like country though, despite all Miranda Lambert's talent.

especially "mama's broken heart" and "dear diamond".

I agree with this. "Mama's Broken Heart" really jumped out at me last time I listened. I must not have been paying close attention the first time(s) I heard it.

four the record might well be the worst album title by an artist i like of 2011 though.

Haha.

Occidental Rudipherous, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

what does Lambert do differently from other country artists?

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING BUT RAP AND COUNTRY

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 5 December 2011 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good list Doran

oPal, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alfred, was that to me? I don't know. Like I said, last time I listened to Four the Record, even though I think it's good and that Lambert is super-talented, I still ended up feeling that even the country I find most accessible isn't something I can click with in a big way. Maybe Crazy Ex-Girlfriend just caught me at a good time? I haven't listened to enough country to attempt to answer why I like Miranda Lambert more than most (but I have tried some other in the "If you like ML, you might like this" category, and haven't taken to them). The way Crazy Ex-Girlfriend straddles the line between country and classic rock probably helped, but I'm sure there's a lot of other country that does that. (Also, I mostly don't even listen to classic rock, so how is that an explanation for liking the album? But maybe it hits a residual classic rock spot in me.)

Occidental Rudipherous, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seems a bit more leftfield list for Quietus than in 2010, and that's appreciated.

And yes, pomplamau5, you need to hear the Cut Hands. Its more a companion to something like the Konono nº1 albums than dancefloor fare.

Sanpaku, Monday, 5 December 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good list Doran

― oPal, Monday, December 5, 2011 11:39 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 5 December 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Except lol Clams Casino smh

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 5 December 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah, shut it, Clams Casino = awesome.

Particularly heartening for me to see a second placing for Zun Zun Egui, but a bit disheartening that Kogumaza haven't made it into a single year-end list at all. Boo.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 5 December 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rudiphrous I def feel like lots of new country shows a classic rock inflence. 70s AOR has totally become an element of their heartland idyll

the Celtic note (henrietta lacks), Monday, 5 December 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

And the FACT tracks begin:
http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/

50: OSSIE ‘TARANTULA’ (LIGHTWORKS)
49: MR. BEATNICK ‘SYNTHETES’ (DON’T BE AFRAID)
48: PUSHA T ‘ALONE IN VEGAS’ (from FEAR OF GOD, MIXTAPE)
47: PAUL WOOLFORD & PSYCATRON ‘STOLEN’ (HOTFLUSH)
46: MARK ERNESTUS MEETS BBC ‘MARK ERNESTUS MEETS BBC’ (VERSION) (HONEST JON’S)
45: AUTRE NE VEUT ‘SWEETHEART’ (from BODY, HIPPOS IN TANKS)
44: PHOTEK ‘CLOSER’ (PINCH REMIX) (TECTONIC)
43: LEVON VINCENT ‘IMPRESSIONS OF A RAINSTORM’ (NOVEL SOUND)
42: E.R.P. ‘LUNAR RUINS’ (HARBOUR CITY SORROW)
41: CREEP feat. NINA SKY ‘YOU’ (YOUNG TURKS)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait, Photek is still a thing?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Creep track is one of my favorite songs of the year

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

clams casino is garbage

also i really dg why hour logic is the one of the 5000 things laurel halo was involved in this year that people like/have heard

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

that photek song is p good!!

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

ILM (i forget what thread) is the answer to your xp question for me, what is better?

rob (night house), Monday, 5 December 2011 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

50: OSSIE ‘TARANTULA’ (LIGHTWORKS)
49: MR. BEATNICK ‘SYNTHETES’ (DON’T BE AFRAID)
43: LEVON VINCENT ‘IMPRESSIONS OF A RAINSTORM’ (NOVEL SOUND)
41: CREEP feat. NINA SKY ‘YOU’ (YOUNG TURKS)

^^massive cosigns, particularly "synthetes" and "you"

(thought levon v's "man or mistress" was better but it might be yet to come)

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised not to see the brandt brauer frick album on these lists, am only belatedly discovering it but it's fucking great

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's... a really random rap song to coalesce around

v-shasty, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/5KMVL4vKFAEHkuemnt5jFU

Figured I might as well start a Spotify playlist for the FACT tracks countdown

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like brandt brauer frick and Roll The Dice but they're not quite EOY for me.

Doran, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Tarantula" and "Synthetes" come across as very mannered and polite, kind of like house music that wouldn't offend your conservative older relatives; I'm not really feeling either of them. (This is kind of my problem with dance music in general these days; it's either too anonymously mannered or too anonymously brash, with nothing actually sticking out as exciting.)

Pusha T is... okay? Again, kind of boring/unengaging, like I'm listening to it through a thick pane of glass that's blocking me from making an emotional attachment to the music.

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really think of "synthetes" as dancefloor-focused particularly - i just love the sweep of the strings

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha yeah that's very close to what i was saying yesterday about how both kendrick lamar and pusha kind of try to project a personality in their words that never comes out in their voice (xpost)

Mr. Stevensome #dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

dan might like this by mr beatnick and ahu, who's an absolutely wonderful turkish singer (it's from 2010)

lex pretend, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think my headphones are letting me down massively with "Mark Ernestus Meets BBC"

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

hadn't heard the Ossie track before - its slightly reminiscent of Kerri Chandler's bar-a-thym

april wowak, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol lex that had no sound for me! Fortunately one of the related links had it; this is... okay? It's a little like the Night Slugs reaction all over again; it's all decent/well done but it doesn't actually speak to me.

Like, this is basically downtempo Jill Scott record and I already have enough Jill Scott that I don't really need something that just reminds me of her.

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Sweetheart" is already interesting me more because the vocals are on the weird side. It's definitely my favorite of the songs I've played so far (obv not better than "You")

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to something by Brandt Brauer Frick on Spotify right now and it's great, but apparently from 2010? Is there something from 2011 I should know about?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I feel like calling this year the time when music stopped getting real, and started getting polite </realworldnerd>

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

o i c, they added "Ensemble" to the name for 2011 xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Brandt Brauer Frick's 2010 You Make Me Real is assembled from samples & overdubs on a computer workstation. 2011's Mr. Machine is largely studio live performance mostly reprising pieces from the debut by a 10 piece ensemble.

Sanpaku, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sanpaku, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have listened to the first, listening now to the latest...not sure which I prefer, but "Pretend" was phenomenal.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I feel like calling this year the time when music stopped getting real, and started getting polite </realworldnerd>

― OH NOES, Monday, December 5, 2011 1:38 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

haha sometimes it really is a waste that you're not a critic

Mr. Stevensome #dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 5 December 2011 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

He's a critic. He only does it for us, though, and doesn't get paid.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

We don't get paid much either.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 December 2011 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Feels treasonous to say but I don't really get the big deal (among the tiny crowd who cares) about Ossie. All of his stuff sounds nice enough but hardly distinct from other polite funky. Seems related to the weird level of cred and respect afforded to DJ MA1, though. Like, this is the way to be down with trad house conservatism.

Tim F, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

We don't get paid much either.

what? this is outrageous.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 December 2011 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

:( I like MA1 a lot

furnace mane, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

tim you were the first person i know to start bigging up ossie

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know! Or at least while I can't remember I can imagine myself having done that. But I think it's a bit like how you say you like Azealia Banks but she'd be nowhere near your top 10 (tho obv that comparison doesn't work on any other level!). I think Ossie (and DJMA1) are fine, even great sometimes, but they seem like really odd people to be singled out.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 04:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh i guess it's the same for me then - "tarantula" is in my longlist of like 200 tracks of the year but probably won't make the top 50 or anything. but #50 seems like a fine enough position for it here...

has ma1 done anything nearly as good as "i'm right here" since '09?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 07:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stereogum Top 50 Albums of 2011
http://stereogum.com/891411/stereogums-top-50-albums-of-2011/franchises/listomania/

50 Youth Lagoon – The Year Of Hibernation
49 Toro Y Moi – Underneath The Pine
48 Oddisee – Rock Creek Park
47 Wilco – The Whole Love
46 tUnE-yArDs – w h o k i l l
45 Adele – 21
44 James Blake – James Blake
43 Twin Sister – In Heaven
42 Unknown Mortal Orchestra – Unknown Mortal Orchestra
41 Das Racist – Relax
40 Kendrick Lamar – Section.80
39 Nicolas Jaar – Space Is Only Noise
38 Burst Apart – Burst Apart
37 Smith Westerns – Dye It Blonde
36 Cut Copy – Zonoscope
35 Atlas Sound – Parallax
34 Kurt Vile – Smoke Ring For My Halo
33 SBTRKT – SBTRKT
32 St. Vincent – Strange Mercy
31 Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues
30 Radiohead – The King Of Limbs
29 Washed Out – Within And Without
28 Pictureplane – Thee Physical
27 Destroyer – Kaputt
26 The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart – Belong
25 Cold Cave – Cherish The Light Years
24 Frank Ocean – Nostalgia, Ultra
23 Wild Flag – Wild Flag
22 Ryan Adams – Ashes & Fire
21 Clams Casino – Instrumental Mixtape
20 Real Estate – Days
19 Iceage – New Brigade
18 Beyoncé – 4
17 Oneohtrix Point Never – Replica
16 Neon Indian – Era Extraña
15 Zola Jesus – Conatus
14 Austra – Feel It Break
13 Yuck – Yuck
12 M83 – Hurry Up, We’re Dreaming
11 Kate Bush – 50 Words For Snow
10 Kanye West & Jay-Z – Watch The Throne
09 ASAP Rocky – LIVELOVEA$AP
08 PJ Harvey – Let England Shake
07 EMA – Past Life Martyred Saints
06 Gang Gang Dance – Eye Contact
05 The Weeknd – House Of Balloons
04 Fucked Up – David Comes To Life
03 Bon Iver – Bon Iver
02 Drake – Take Care
01 Girls – Father, Son, Holy Ghost

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 08:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here are mine. http://sickmouthy.com/2011/12/06/albums-of-2011/

Sick Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i read this on the train this morning, nick. nice round-up. I especially liked your descriptions of nicolas jaar and st vincent.

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

kind of getting moved to write my own top ten.

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT tracks #40-31
http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/2/

40: OLD APPARATUS SIDE A PART 1 (DEEP MEDI)
39: TEETH ‘SHAWTY’ (502 RECORDINGS)
38: SOFT METALS ‘PSYCHIC DRIVING’ (CAPTURED TRACKS)
37: DARQ E FREAKER ‘CHERRYADE’ (OIL GANG)
36: THE-DREAM ‘BODY WORK & FUCK MY BRAINS OUT’ (RADIO KILLA / DEF JAM)
35: BOK BOK ‘HYPERPASS’ (from SOUTHSIDE, NIGHT SLUGS)
34: CHAMPION feat. RUBY LEE RYDER ‘SENSITIVITY’ (FORMULA)
33: JAMIE XX ‘FAR NEARER’ (NUMBERS)
32: VATICAN SHADOW ‘WHITEWASHED COMPOUND STEALTH HELICOPTER CRASH’ (from PAKISTAN MILITARY ACADEMY, HOSPITAL PRODUCTIONS)
31: PERC ‘LONDON, WE HAVE YOU SURROUNDED) (from WICKER & STEEL, PERC TRAX)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

New York magazine
http://nymag.com/arts/cultureawards/2011/top-ten-albums/

1. Austra Feel It Break
2. Colin Stetson New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges
3. Shabazz Palaces Black Up
4. Destroyer Kaputt
5. PJ Harvey Let England Shake
6. Iceage New Brigade
7. Tune-Yards W h o k i l l
8. Kendrick Lamar Section.80
9. Gang Gang Dance Eye Contact
10. Nicolas Jaar Space Is Only Noise

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ Nabisco's list rather than a staff poll

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rad

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay that 3D effect on all the album covers for Dusted's running year-end list stuff is so annoying and headache-inducing that I had to stop reading it.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

the comments on nabisco's list are a TREAT

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Sex life"? How very.

oPal, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Back to the FACT tracks on Spotify, the Soft Metals track does the polite electro thing in a much more engaging, warmer manner than the stuff I was playing yesterday; I was wondering why this was on an EOY list until it switched up around the 2 minute mark. I like the little filter swoops that pop up intermittently.

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Cherryade" is one of the best tracks of the year? Really? It seems kind of like an inoffensive throwaway track that you'd play as filler while you looked for the track you ACTUALLY wanted to hear.

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

first time i've heard it and i concur. It's kind of a boring ten actually

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would be totally infatuated with this Bok Bok track if it had a massive beat. Everything else about it is fantastic but if it had pounding, punishing drums under it it would be exactly my type of shit. (I wonder if my headphones are letting me down on this one.)

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Sensitivity" is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i kind of agree re: that bok bok track (and that whole ep) :/

total cosign on champion & ruby lee ryder "sensitivity"

that jamie xx track has got to be the most overrated in this general scene of 2011. just doesn't do enough of anything.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha that's what I'm playing now, it's basically okay but I feel like it's missing something

also the echo on the vocal sample creates a really UGLY dissonance that doesn't seem to serve any purpose or push the song anywhere

oof the "breakdown" around the 4 minute mark is pathetic, this is not a track that is improved by stripping it down to highlight disparate parts

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I might be the only person favourably inclined towards funky who doesn't love Sensitivity. Or more to the point, I like it more as a vehicle for riotous MCs to jump all over than I do as a song in its own right.

Terror Danjah's 'Full Attention' on the other hand, which also features Ruby Lee Ryder, is majestic and should be very high up the FACT list.

I think I agree with whoever it was upthread who was eyerolling at the praise the FACT list gets. A few years ago they felt like a refreshing alternative but now it feels like they're very content to plough their own furrow and it's one that by and large isn't that interesting to me. I fully expect the RA list to knock it into a cocked hat.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

the bashiness of the breakdown in "full attention" kind of became a turn-off after a while

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've kind of gotten the feeling RA have been taking their cues from FACT for the past couple of years. There certainly wasn't a huge gulf between their lists last year

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the bashiness of the breakdown in "full attention" kind of became a turn-off after a while

That's one of my favourite bits!

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also RA is a lot more interested in non-murky dance music than FACT by and large. They had Tensnake at #2 last year which would be unthinkable in FACT, but that's partly because RA feels a lot more European in its focus.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

... Are they kidding with this Vatican Shadow track?

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still mulling over Nabisco's 2nd essay on how he likes pop but not most of this year's chart pop...none of which makes his top 10 list

He’d notice the long chart dominance of Katy Perry, whose cheeky retronaut pop bears odd resemblances to the cheeky solo work of David Lee Roth

hmmmm

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, I am not opposed to ambient but 10 minutes of unimaginative stasis as one of the best tracks of the year is just silly

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good to hear Psychic Paramount record getting praise round here. Anyone like The Men's record? A bit more derivative but good fun nevertheless.

Re. Resident Advisor list: they always have a really good set of mixes, a type of record often overlooked by other lists.

Neil S, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

feeling nabs' list

v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh shit, "Full Attention"

so my takeaway here is that I should be paying attention to funky?

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bought lots of great records this year - none has appeared in any of these lists though (yet)

maybe the RA list will change that

april wowak, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of disappointed by nabsico's list! it looks like a consensus publication list, not an individual's list

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'nm no expert but i don't think "Full Attention" is funky

Number None, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay, it was just mentioned in the context (I did think it seemed like a totally different animal from "Sensitivity")

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Full Attention is grime (or, ugh, R&G) really - Terror Danjah really needs to release a whole album of this stuff soon (early pointer towards this sound here).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just have to accept that Nabisco is not interested in some 2011 things that I am--charting rap and r'n'b; African, Caribbean (soca & dancehall) and Latin music; country, southern soul and Americana. It's a good list of non-chart rap and rock

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

And I like Katy Perry and David Lee Roth "cheeky pop"

Another Suburbanite, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like that sentence was supposed to say something else, mostly because I can't see nabisco intentionally using the same adjective on both sides of a comparison in the same type of construction

OH NOES, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

This year's prominent triumvirate of indie-rock bands wrestling earnestly with folky authenticity: BIFFA - Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Antlers

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

very apt

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol kudos

synthpop of the Gnostics (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hottracks (S. Korea) 2011 EOY

1 Adele - 21
2 Florence + The Machine - Ceremonials
3 James Blake - st
4 Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto
5 Radiohead - The King Of Limbs
6 Foo Fighters - Wasting Light
7 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - st
8 Lady Gaga - Born This Way
9 Jay-Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne
10 Kasabian - Velociraptor!
11 Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
12 Feist - Metals
13 Tori Amos - Night Of Hunters
14 Bon Iver - st
15 Beastie Boys - Hot Sauce Committee Part Two
16 Bjork - Biophilia
17 Superheavy - st
18 Jamie Woon - Mirrorwriting
19 Beadie Eye - Different Gear, Still Speeding
20 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
21 Iron & Wine - Kiss Each Other Clean
22 Lucinda William - Blessed
23 Mamas Gun - The Life And The Soul
24 Wilco - The Whole Love
25 Snow Patrol - Fallen Empires
26 Megadeth - Th1rt3en
27 Foster The People - Torches
28 My Morning Jacket - Circuital
29 Paul Simon - So Beautiful Or So What
30 Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

First appearances for Superheavy and Lulu, thank you South Korea

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

lulu's too far down the list

your voice of treason, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shouldn't be below Superheavy, that's for sure

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

doesn't South Korea have some "local" bands that they can put on a list like this?

Mordy, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

That list is hilarious, especially high placing of James Blake given what he's surrounded by.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

17 Superheavy - st
19 Beadie Eye - Different Gear, Still Speeding
20 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake

Really don't know what to say about this except 'lolololololol'.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a great list

smh, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know that it's the bottom of the list but most of these Fact tracks sound like half-finished tunes on someone's hard drive, both bloodless and amateurish. Wish I could be convinced it wasn't just writers repping their mates in one or two cases.

Really like that Mr Beatnik tune though, not heard that before. It's loads better than I Know All The Bitches.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Men's Leave Home is a great album. It's not often I can get into something doing that Spacemen 3, Mudhoney, Stooges kind of thing given the amount I've listened to over the last 25 years but this is a great CD.

Doran, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

AV Club's list, pretty boring but Wye Oak is no. 1
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-music-of-2011,66004/

n/a, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

feeling nabs' list

― v-shasty, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:17 (6 hours ago) Permalink

have you heard the iceage album j0radn? if so do you like it? curious

wil smif, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

AV Club's list, pretty boring but because Wye Oak is no. 1

Sorry, just do not get the love for this band at all. Based on how people describe them, I should really enjoy this but I find the new album to be boring as hell.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't get into the new album as much as the last one but i think they're a great band, really like their songwriting and her singing.

n/a, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I need to check out the last one, sounds like that one might be closer to how the band has been described to me.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 21:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard Wye Oak at all, but #1 on AV Club is kind of a not-boring move.

Anyway, Paul Krugman digs them. Or at least their live videos on YouTube.

jaymc, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah. i think wye oak is kind of generic.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Paul Krugman digs them. Or at least their live videos on YouTube.

lol

That interview was pretty funny.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

low blow, jmc

league of women voters, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

NME Albums of 2011

01 PJ HARVEY - LET ENGLAND SHAKE
02 METRONOMY - THE ENGLISH RIVIERA
03 THE HORRORS - SKYING
04 WILD BEASTS - SMOTHER
05 KURT VILE - SMOKE RING FOR MY HALO
06 ARCTIC MONKEYS - SUCK IT AND SEE
07 ST VINCENT - STRANGE MERCY
08 KATY B - ON A MISSION
09 TUNE-YARDS - WHOKILL
10 WU LYF - GO TELL FIRE TO THE MOUNTAIN

11 ANNA CALVI - ANNA CLAVI
12 SCUM - AGAIN INTO EYES
13 SUUNS - ZEROES QC
14 THE VACCINES - WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM THE VACCINES?
15 WILD FLAG - WILD FLAG
16 BOMBAY BICYCLE CLUB - A DIFFERENT KKIND OF FIX
17 BATTLES - GLOSS DROP
18 CAT'S EYES - CAT'S EYES
19 LAURA MARLING - A CREATURE I DON´T KNOW
20 RADIOHEAD - THE KING OF LIMBS

21 KASABIAN - VELOCIRAPTOR!
22 NOAH & THE WHALE - LAST NIGHT ON EARTH
23 YUCK - YUCK
24 BIG TALK - BIG TALK
25 PLANNINGTOROCK - W
26 GIRLS - FATHER, SON, HOLY GHOST
27 BLACK LIPS - ARABIA MOUNTAIN
28 THE FIELD - LOOPING STATE OF MIND
29 SMITH WESTERNS - DYE IT BLONDE
30 FRIENDLY FIRES - PALA

31 FLORENCE & THE MACHINE - CEREMONIALS
32 ALEX TURNER - SUBMARINE OST
33 JUSTICE - AUDIO,VIDEO,DISCO
34 UNKNOWN MORTAL ORCHESTRA - UNKNOWN MORTAL ORCHESTRA
35 TV ON THE RADIO - NINE TYPES OF LIGHT
36 ICEAGE - NEW BRIGADE
37 WHITE DENIM - D
38 BJÖRK - BIOPHILIA -
39 NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING BIRDS - s/t
40 COLD CAVE - CHERISH THE LIGHT YEARS

41 DEATH GRIPS - EX-MILITARY
42 PATRICK WOLF - LUPERCALIA
43 FOO FIGHTERS - WASTING LIGHT
44 DESTROYER - KAPUTT
45 AUSTRA - FEEL IT BREAK
46 BON IVER - BON IVER
47 REAL ESTATE - DAYS
48 SLOW CLUB - PARADISE
49 SBTRKT - SBTRKT
50 JAY Z & KANYE WEST - WATCH THE THRONE

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

(NOT MY ALL CAPS BTW)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

they really like to cram their shit down your throat huh?

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

You know, that's not a TERRIBLE list, to be fair.

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm really the only one that finds that PJ Harvey patchy as hell, huh?

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not my thing... i even caught her live this year and it did nothing for me.

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's worthy of a number one slot, but I was pleasantly surprised by it.

And yeah, that NME list is not... the worst thing ever, anyway.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought the Suuns album was 2010?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Apparently 2010 in US, 2011 release in the UK.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

DODGY

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

(that wasn't me using the secret bat signal for Geir btw)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

so my takeaway here is that I should be paying attention to funky?

dan your takeaway here is to pay attention to threads I start.

I think I might be the only person favourably inclined towards funky who doesn't love Sensitivity. Or more to the point, I like it more as a vehicle for riotous MCs to jump all over than I do as a song in its own right.

Feel you on this matt but I think this is true of 99.9% of funky, it's a legacy of the particular way that it fuses impulses from house, grime and dancehall that even the best songs can feel incomplete on their own - even when it doesn't seem like the tune was designed with MCs and DJ mixing in mind the very structure of the music seems to demand that interplay.

I would say this is even true of say, "Do You Mind", though not true of "It's What You Do" or Ill Blu's Roll Deep mixes.

Dancehall in particular is the same for me: it's rare for a tune to sound better on its own than in the context of a mix of several tracks on the one riddim.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

NME tracks list 2011

1 LANA DEL REY - VIDEO GAMES
2 TYLER, THE CREATOR - YONKERS
3 THE HORRORS - STILL LIFE
4 PJ HARVEY - THE WORDS THAT MAKETH MURDER
5 WILD BEASTS - BED OF NAILS
6 BATTLES - ICE CREAM
7 METRONOMY - THE BAY
8 TUNE - BIZNESS
9 HOWLER - I TOLD YOU ONCE
10 M83 - MIDNIGHT CITY

11 METRONOMY - THE LOOK
12 KURT VILE - BABY'S ARMS
13 NIKI 6 THE DOVE - THE FOX
14 THE VACCINES - IF YOU WANNA
15 SPECTOR - NEVER FADE AWAY
16 SUMMER CAMP - I WANT YOU
17 KATY B - BROKEN RECORD
18 AZEALIA BANKS - 212
19 ANNA CALVI - BLACKOUT
20 MILK MUSIC - BEYOND LIVING

21 FOSTER THE PEOPLE - PUMPED UP KICKS
22 ARCTIC MONKEYS - THE HELLCAT SPANGLED SHALALALA
23 FLORENCE & THE MACHINE - SHAKE IT OUT
24 GLASVEGAS - THE WORLD IS YOURS
25 THE STROKES - UNDER COVER OF DARKNESS
26 RIHANNA - WE FOUND LOVE
27 LITTLE DRAGON - RITUAL UNION
28 THE VACCINES - POST BREAK UP SEX
29 BOMBAY BICYCLE CLUB - SHUFFLE
30 ADELE - ROLLING IN THE DEEP ( JAMIE XX SHUFFLE )

31 THE DRUMS - MONEY
32 GHOSTPOET - LIIINES
33 ALEX TURNER - PILEDRIVER WALTZ
34 AUSTRA - BEAT AND THE PULSE
35 SBTRKT FEAT. LITTLE DRAGON - WILDFIRE
36 HERCULES & LOVE AFFAIR - MY HOUSE
37 MARINA & THE DIAMONDS - RADIOACTIVE
38 BEYONCE - RUN THE WORLD
39 FRIENDS - I'M HIS GIRL
40 JUSTICE - CIVILIZATION

41 METRONOMY - SHE WANTS
42 FACTORY FLOOR - REAL LOVE
43 AZARI & III - RECKLESS WITH YOUR LOVE
44 JOE GODDARD FEAT. VALENTINA - GABRIEL
45 ICEAGE - BROKEN BONE
46 AUSTRA - LOSE IT
47 DANANANANAYKROYD - MUSCLE MEMORY
48 COLD CAVE - THE GREAT PAN IS DEAD
49 NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING BIRDS - IF I HAD A GUN
50 NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING BIRDS - AKA...WHAT A LIFE!

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Noel's double placement right at the end is odd

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was a joke!

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

49 NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING BIRDS - IF I HAD A GUN
50 NOEL GALLAGHER'S HIGH FLYING BIRDS - AKA...THE STEENDRIVER!

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Little White Earbuds EPs of the year

01 Sepalcure - Fleur
02 Levon Vincent - Impression of a Rainstorm
03 Conforce - Dystopian Elements
04 Ital - Ital’s Theme
05 Kassem Mosse - Workshop 12

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol dog latin

furnace mane, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 00:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty good metal list - http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/151868-the-best-metal-of-2011/

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL av club listing that saigon album

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

kinda weird that they list the points/albums w/ so little people? "coming in at number four, with a whole FOUR votes..."

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Look, Nathan Rabin had been waiting a damn long time for that album and he was damned if he wasn't going to enjoy it

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

kinda weird that they list the points/albums w/ so little people? "coming in at number four, with a whole FOUR votes..."

haha all i cld think was 'why did the av club change their eoy list format to match an ilx ballot poll?'. i was disappointed they didnt list the no. of #1 voters as well

є(٥_ ٥)э, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have been a Wye Oak superfan since before they were Wye Oak and was at one of their very first shows and love any success they get, but the latest album was really not their best work, the EP from last year slays it

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

43 AZARI & III - RECKLESS WITH YOUR LOVE

I thought that was 2009 ? Cause if we're allowed to vote for it again because the album came out in 2011 I will !

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't base anything you do on an NME editorial decision

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 02:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

That NME albums list isn't that bad actually, although I may be influenced by Let England Shake at #1 and Katy B in the top 10. Singles list is a bore though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 10:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

That said there's something a bit scraping-the-barrel about the NME albums list, like they were really running out of ideas by #45 or so and couldn't have put together a top 60 if they tried.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 10:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

not enough shit uk indie acts. had to start using their brains.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 11:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT mag #30-#21
http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/3/

30: PEARSON SOUND ‘DEEP INSIDE’ (NIGHT SLUGS WHITE LABEL)
29: WASHED OUT ‘AMOR FATI’ (WEIRD WORLD / SUB POP)
28: GROUPER ‘ALIEN OBSERVER’ (from A I A, YELLOW ELECTRIC)
27: LOOPS HAUNT ‘ARK’ (BLACK ACRE)
26: SBTRKT feat. ROSES GABOR ‘PHARAOHS’ (from SBTRKT, YOUNG TURKS)
25: HUXLEY ‘SHOWER SCENE’ (ACT NATURAL)
24: KAHN ‘LIKE WE USED TO’ (PUNCH DRUNK)
23: NEW YORK TRANSIT AUTHORITY ‘OFF THE TRAXX’ (LOBSTER BOY)
22: KREAYSHAWN ‘GUCCI GUCCI’ (SONY)
21: DYLAN ETTINGER ‘LION OF JUDAH’ (NOT NOT FUN)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

LAMP mag

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Loops Haunt track is apparently "the biggest, baddest record you’ll hear anywhere this year with a guitar solo".

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

(it's IDM-ish post-dubstep btw)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

YES to "deep inside" and "pharaohs"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

That said there's something a bit scraping-the-barrel about the NME albums list, like they were really running out of ideas by #45 or so and couldn't have put together a top 60 if they tried.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 5:37 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

i think they ran out of ideas by #6 when they continued repping for Arctic Monkeys

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not to play cap'n save the NME here, but this year's Arctic Monkeys album is actually better than their last couple. Still nowhere near top-ten worthy though.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

They put Alex Turner's Submarine soundtrack on there as well though. Which was actually quite pleasant in the film but having it as an album of the year is indicative of a dearth of ideas.

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess they're still actually popular in the uk, it'd just been like 3 years since i'd even been reminded they exist

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh I'm not arguing that the NME doesn't have a dearth of ideas, just saying that the Arctic Monkeys album appearance probably isn't the worst offense on the list. Actually I'm kind of surprised they didn't toss in the other Gallagher bro's album too.

(xpost)

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surprised because lol NME, not because it is any good or anything.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I quite like the Monkeys record.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought those Alex Turner songs had the effect of killing the emotional moments in Submarine stone dead actually.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

from a personal aversion to Turner? his voice?

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah while I'm not particularly into him I don't have much of a problem with Turner or his voice either. It's just that it was an emotional enough movie anyway, and it really didn't need sensitive acoustic busker ballads indicating when the viewer should feel sad.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was a good movie, but when he started singing it suddenly killed it because y'know, "oh, it's the Arctic Monkeys guy singing". So many US indie films have been guilty of doing this - crowbarring music from some indie act and it feels like you're being force-fed these acts in a kind of "Of course you like Moldy Peaches, don't you?" kind of way. I felt similar about Submarine, so I hope it's not a trend the UKers will continue.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wire put Lulu at #9

Ralph Molina, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

James Ferraro at #1 apparently.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is it out today?

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have to say that, despite FACT's best attempts to make it seem horrible, that Loops Haunt track is outstanding

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looks like it, Sean xp

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah i got my digital edition today. Will try to type some of it out when I can.

Ralph Molina, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh damn, we don't have a Wire thread on the sandbox, do we? I'm excited as they should be using my photos for the CooS review.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

even with Kreayshawn, this section of the FACT list is so so sooooooo much better than what they posted yesterday

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm excited as they should be using my photos for the CooS review

Aw, congrats on that!

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm...I thought that all print subscribers could now access the digital edition but I can't see how to make it work (I don't have an exact editions account). I guess I'll have to wait and see if it has been delivered at home.

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Complete lack of love for the DJ Quik album in these lists. Should we be surprised?

millmeister, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

No. With the exception of Jeff Weiss, the only people who've loved that record post here.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

was there much love for blaqkout in that year's non-ILM lists?

this applies to like...at least 3/4 of all my favourite albums this year. i don't know whether people didn't like them or just didn't bother hearing them despite all my repping.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wire
1. James Ferraro - Far Side Virtual
2. Rustie - Glass Swords
3. Eliane Radigue - Transamorem - Transmortem
4. Hype Williams - One Motion
5. The Beach Boys - The SMiLE Sessions
6. Michael Chapman - The Resurrection And Revenge Of The Clayton Peacock
7. DJ Rashad - Just A Taste
8. Laurel Halo - Hour Logic
9. Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu
10. John Wall & Alex Rogers - Work 2006-2011
11. Keiji Haino / Jim O'Rourke / Oren Ambarchi - In a Flash Everything Comes Together As One There Is No Need For A Subject
12. Sun Araw - Ancient Romans
13. Bill Orcutt - How TheThing Sings
14. Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica
15. Peaking Lights - 936
16. Corrupted - Garten Der Unberwusstheit
17. Balam Acab - Wander/Wonder
18. Ricardo Villalobos & Max Loderbauer - Re: ECM
19. Anti G - Presents 'Kentje'sz Beatsz'
20. Thomas Ankersmit & Valerio Tricoli - Forma II
21. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
22. Cornelius Cardew - The Great Learning
23. Thundercat - The Golden Age of Apocalypse
24. Hecker - Speculative Solution
25. Andy Stott - We Stay Together
26. Rinse 16: Mixed By Ben UFO
27. Radiohead - The King Of Limbs
28. Margaret Dygas - Margaret Dygas
29. Jim O'Rourke - Old News #5
30. Bangs And Works Vol 2: The Best of Chicago Footwork
31. Ekoplekz - Intrusive Incidentalz Vol 1
32. Tim Hecker - Ravedeath, 1972
33. The Advisory Circle - As The Crow Flies
34. Miles Davis - Live In Europe 1967: The Bootleg Series Vol 1
35. Alexander Tucker - Dorwytch
36. Helm - Cryptography
37. John Chantler - The Luminous Ground
38. Ectoplasm Girls - TxN
39. Cindytalk - Hold Everything Dear
40. Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
41. Kuedo - Severant
42. Structure - Toad Blinker
43. The Fall - Ersatz GB
44. Leyland Kirby - Intrigue & Stuff Vol 1
45. Patrice & Friends - Cashmere Sheets
46. Zomby - Dedication
47. Music For Merce (1952-2009)
48. Peter Evans Quintet - Ghosts
49. Rrose x Bob Ostertag - Motormouth Variations
50. Michael Chapman - Trainsongs: Guitar Compositions 1967-2010

Ralph Molina, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice to see corrupted make it

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, really happy to see them rate that Corrupted album, its great.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

is that rustie album good

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm pleased to see the rustie album getting lots of EOY love, though it's sliiiightly worn off for me (like from "dead cert top 10" to "dead cert top 20"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's the best track. You decide

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lol good trolling on the part of Wire putting that James Ferraro at #1.

moonbop, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised by the various results so far. i actually thought that let england shake would top many/most of these lists, yet so far it doesn't seem like it.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're seeing the same acts though: Destroyer, Bon Iver, Frank Ocean, etc.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

track is p dope, number none

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I forgot about Smile. I'm yet to hear it - holding out for a Xmas present.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Your kidding re: PJ Harvey right? I mean, its not topping every list, but I mean... this is pretty much as universal acclaim as you can get:

5 pj harvey - let england shake
06 - LET ENGLAND SHAKE - PJ HARVEY
1. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
02) PJ Harvey: Let England Shake
2. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
4.PJ HARVEY - "Let England Shake" (Island)
01 PJ Harvey – Let England Shake
1: PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
3. PJ HARVEY - 'Let England Shake'
1 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
7. P.J Harvey : Let England Shake
2) PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
01 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake.
1. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
8. PJ Harvey : Let England Shake (Island)
1. PJ Harvey Let England Shake
5. PJ Harvey Let England Shake

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're seeing the same acts though: Destroyer, Bon Iver, Frank Ocean, etc.

true.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guess which album is leading the Metacritic list that compiles all the results so far?

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/music-critic-top-ten-lists-best-albums-of-2011

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

hm. okay. i guess i haven't studied the various lists enough. or maybe a few curious choices (e.g., ferraro; the weekend; florence + the machine) threw me off.

(xp)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guess which album is leading the Metacritic list that compiles all the results so far?

wait, don't tell me. i think i already know.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Metronomy album any good or is it rubbish indie electro of the highest order like I'm assuming?

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

hm. okay. i guess i haven't studied the various lists enough. or maybe a few curious choices (e.g., ferraro; the weekend; florence + the machine) threw me off.

The Florence album is really, really, REALLY good, like unreasonably so in the face of expectations. Basically, I bought it on a whim because I knew my wife wanted to hear more of her and most of the songs are just above and beyond what I was expecting, particularly "What The Water Gave Me", "No Light, No Light", "Remain Nameless", "Seven Days" and "Strangeness and Charm".

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i haven't gotten around to it yet. reviews were mixed, IIRC.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

pj harvey will top the ilm list obv

wil smif, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's basically a big sweeping gothy pop album, I really love it and I didn't think I was going to (I thought it would be overbearing and try-too-hard).

Of course, I am not a fan of her videos...

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

pj harvey will top the ilm list obv

i've been wondering this - i'm not sure, it didn't actually seem to take with wider ilx beyond the hardcore in her thread.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

pj harvey will top the ilm list obv

would be the first ever rock winner if it does

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

TIME magazine:

10. Black Keys - El Camino
9. Civil Wars - Barton Hollow
8. The Beastie Boys - Hot Sauce Committee, Part II
7. Caitlin Rose - Own Side Now
6. tUnE-yArDs - W h o k i l l
5. Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra
4. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
3. Kanye West and Jay-Z - Watch the Throne
2. Florence and the Machine - Ceremonials
1. Adele - 21

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2101344_2101364,00.html

o. nate, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

who is this frank ocean then?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's one of the more talented Odd Future ppl

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll say this now: I wish Adele would just fuck off.

YEAH!

Actually, no, I don't mind that she exists, I just wish people outside of Mondeo drivers would stop trying to convince themselves she's supposed to be good.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

she has a very nice voice!

she seems nice and inoffensive!

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Adele is a weird case. I think she has a fantastic voice but it's clear that she is abusing the hell out of it; every recording of her I've heard has had at least one appearance of serious vocal fray, to the point where my only surprise at her cancelling her tour to have throat surgery is that she made it as long as she did before throwing in the towel. As a result, listing to her singles is this awful seesaw of going "what what a voice"/"yikes that sounds like it hurts, stop that".

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

isn't that the american idol effect?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

everybody wails all the time, mostly for no good reason.

steve perry used to wail, too, but he chose his spots better.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to the Frank Ocean album yesterday. I thought some of the production was interesting, especially considering he supposedly recorded it on a shoestring. That bit where he starts playing a Radiohead song and you think it's going to be used as a sample but his girlfriend tells him to switch it off is kind of funny. The lyrics are good, but I think it's his vocal style that lets him down - there's little dynamic or pitch change and that dogs down something that would be otherwise pretty cool. Also (and I'm absolutely not an expert here) but I've noticed a lot of avant-r'n'b producers ripping off Terius's vocal affectations - Frank does this, so does the Weeknd - and I'm not sure that's a good thing.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Adele's making a shitload of money for XL, so maybe that'll go towards financing some riskier stuff?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

1. James Ferraro - Far Side Virtual

I'd never even heard of this fellow before but I think I really quite like this

april wowak, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

"nice and inoffensive" is absolutely Adele. I figured I'd check some out before dismissing her outright, and I guess the songs are pleasant, but they don't do anything. They just sit there for four minutes doing fuck all. It's soundbite music - sounds great in a snatch on TV or radio and convinces people to buy it, but you're left with just extended versions of those snatches.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

isn't that the american idol effect?

Pop singers have been doing that long before "American Idol"; go back and listen to "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" for example. And the problem isn't wailing all the time, it's HOW they're wailing.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also in what universe does "Rolling in the Deep" not sit there doing anything?

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would like to know what kind of shoestring pays for the services of Tricky Stewart and James Fauntleroy

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

James "Little Lord" Fauntleroy

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

adele's lack of risk-taking and "inoffensiveness" isn't her problem (and neither is the BORING strawman of the boring square mondeo driver who only wants comforting familiarity)

dog latin you are coming out w/some real clichés right now

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's difficult to get annoyed about Adele really, I don't actually like her voice that much, I don't here very much emotion in it at all really, it's like she sings like that because that's how soul singers are supposed to sound.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't here very much emotion in it at all really, it's like she sings like that because that's how soul singers are supposed to sound.

Interestingly, I feel that way about pretty much every Adele song I've heard EXCEPT "Rolling in the Deep"; I feel like she connected with that one.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, adele isn't really my regular thing, so excuse cliches (although not entirely sure which bits you're exactly referring to here). can't help feeling that way. Is Rolling In The Deep the one that's just piano accompaniment and the same verse/chorus structure all the way through?

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Loutallica's highest placing so far?

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

my (lack of) response to adele is along much the same lines as my (lack of) response to frank ocean and the weeknd. you just don't move me guyzzz and none of you are as interesting as you think you are

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

"someone like you" is borderline top 10 track imo

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't mind her voice or arrangements; it's that I don't find her songs memorable.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure if adele finds herself that interesting

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

"rolling in the deep" is a pretty great song - i agree with dan that that's the one time i've felt she could be as special as her hype says she is. it's been way overplayed this year though, kinda turned me off it - BUT this version of it RULES MY LIFE

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

(dan especially, watch that!)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Loutallica's highest placing so far?

It's their first placing outside of SE Asia!

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOVE YOU, WIRE

your voice of treason, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I might love "Rolling in the Deep" if Alison Moyet in '85 had sung it.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

ken stott gave it a good review in the wire

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is Rolling In The Deep the one that's just piano accompaniment and the same verse/chorus structure all the way through?

That is "Someone Like You", and criticizing a pop song for having "the same verse/chorus structure all the way through" shows a fundamental misunderstanding/misconception of what makes a pop song.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

she sings like that because that's how soul singers are supposed to sound

This^^ And it goes with a number of other singers - it's like a really good impression of how a singer ought to sing rather than inhabiting a song with one's own personality, which leaves this uncanny valley effect that's really prominent with Adele. It's like someone sucking their stomach in and over-compensating their posture during a job interview. I'm always left hanging on every note, waiting for her to completely fuck everything up and come out with some wonky braying baritone canard.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lol good trolling on the part of Wire

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

VT are probably stocking up on the ltd box so they can punt it on ebay to stupid wire readers

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Amazon.com - Best Music of 2011

Top 10 music editors’ picks for best albums of the year
=======================================================
1. Adele, “21”
2. Bon Iver, “Bon Iver”
3. The Decemberists, “The King is Dead”
4. James Blake, “James Blake”
5. The Civil Wars, “Barton Hollow”
6. Cut Copy, “Zonoscope”
7. Cults, “Cults”
8. Little Dragon, “Ritual Union”
9. tUnE-yArDs, “W H O K I L L”
10. Foo Fighters, “Wasting Light”

Top 10 customer MP3 favorites for 2011:
=======================================
1. Lady Gaga, “Born This Way”
2. Adele, “21”
3. Original Broadway Cast, “The Book Of Mormon”
4. Coldplay, “Mylo Xyloto”
5. The Decemberists, “The King Is Dead”
6. Fleet Foxes, “Helplessness Blues”
7. She & Him, “A Very She & Him Christmas”
8. Death Cab for Cutie, “Codes and Keys”
9. The Civil Wars, “Barton Hollow”
10. Bon Iver, “Bon Iver”

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

gross

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it was just a typographical error on the part of the Wire - it was meant to read "9. Ilx - Precovers Lulu'

Illia Rump (emil.y), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay wau @ X-Factor "Rolling in the Deep"

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

smh @ dog latin

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that was dope

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is "Someone Like You", and criticizing a pop song for having "the same verse/chorus structure all the way through" shows a fundamental misunderstanding/misconception of what makes a pop song.

― OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:58 (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink

No, come on. There are fantastic pop songs out there that don't rely on bludgeoning repetition and inertia to get the point across. I found that song infuriating because it was a pleasant idea utterly wasted. There's nothing to come back to - no uplift, no tension, no bridge, no nothing -just the same melody repeated over and over in this really uninspiring way. I call this the Beautiful South effect. You can sing the song in 20 seconds and just paste it back-to-back on itself for four minutes and boom: there's your hit. That's not songwriting - that's coming up with a catchy riff and forgetting to finish the job.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay wau @ X-Factor "Rolling in the Deep"

misha b was voted out last weekend, having consistently come in the bottom two, because the british public are racist morons. SORRY she just wasn't "likeable" kmt

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

my favourite thing about misha's "rolling in the deep" might be her chorus following the rap - those low notes, so fierce

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost not that repetition is a bad thing, I mean one of my favourite songs of the year was King Creosote's "Your Young Voice" which is essentially a one-line tone poem. But this is done very deliberately. There's no meat to that Adele song.

I don't think I've actually heard Rolling In The Deep, so I'll listen to that when I get home.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's no meat to that Adele song.

gonna let this one pass, i think

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway i always forget that year end time on ilx drives me up a wall bcuz dog latin comes back and starts saying inane shit

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

was there much love for blaqkout in that year's non-ILM lists?

― lex pretend, Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:03 AM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

it had a pretty healthy showing on P&J (#62) and Pitchfork (#25), certainly a larger critical profile than Book of David anyway

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think 'Rolling in the Deep' is a pretty good song, though I get the feeling I might have only heard a remix? I wasn't feeling the X Factor version until the rap, but then I was really impressed with her. I think one thing about X Factor versions is that they aren't really 'songs' but more presentations, right? Because her version doesn't really make any narrative sense at all, but as a presentation of "look, this is what I can do and this is the style I can work with" she's quite compelling.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Amazon list supposed to be the 10 bestselling mp3 albums of the year? How many people bought “A Very She & Him Christmas”???

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Someone Like You" is very droning and monotonous imo, it's really a shame that THAT is the first #1 piano-and-vocals-only ballad in US pop history because it really doesn't do much with those tools

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think one thing about X Factor versions is that they aren't really 'songs' but more presentations, right?

yeah i'm not sure whether this is intent (on the programme/contestants' part) or just a function of the songs having to be edited down to 2.5 mins (cher lloyd managing to cram the backing vox, lead vox and queen pen rap of "no diggity", PLUS a tears for fears chorus in the middle of it all, last year was some mind-boggling feat of timing)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway i always forget that year end time on ilx drives me up a wall bcuz dog latin comes back and starts saying inane shit

― v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:09 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

hmm... this is the first negative thing i've had to say about pretty much anything on these lists so far. And face it like-it-or-not, Adele isn't the most exciting music out this year. I'm not saying she doesn't have talent. She has got a great voice and her songs are pleasant enough. I just don't think anything this tepid should be hitting the high marks in these polls.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

half the albums on all these lists are pretty fucking tepid! bon iver, fleet foxezzz! adele is no more tepid than they are

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

trolling in the deep

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, come on. There are fantastic pop songs out there that don't rely on bludgeoning repetition and inertia to get the point across. I found that song infuriating because it was a pleasant idea utterly wasted. There's nothing to come back to - no uplift, no tension, no bridge, no nothing -just the same melody repeated over and over in this really uninspiring way. I call this the Beautiful South effect. You can sing the song in 20 seconds and just paste it back-to-back on itself for four minutes and boom: there's your hit. That's not songwriting - that's coming up with a catchy riff and forgetting to finish the job.

Sorry, this entire paragraph is flat-out wrong.

The song clearly follows the pattern intro-verse-prechorus-chorus-verse-prechorus-chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus-outro with slight variations in the melody in each section with the one strict constant being the arpeggios in the piano up until the third chorus. The entire song does a series of swells that builds to the bridge, which relaxes into the third chorus and crescendos directly into the repeated chorus.

It's not a complicated song, but it is not underwritten or underperformed.

Now, I will say that the piano part is really, really, really simple, like Alicia-Keys-first-album simple, and that has a tendency to overwhelm the song; that's an arrangement problem, and one that I found pretty easy to overcome when I started focusing on what she was doing.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

adele has been dominating every album and singles chart and industry awards literally the entire year, it's just kind of boring and silly to pop up with "what a disaster that some magazines put adele on their lists" griping in december

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah the simplistic piano on "Someone" really bothers me -- if you're going to have only piano accompanying a voice like hers the playing should be equally rich and technically accomplished imo

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

bon iver, fleet foxezzz! adele

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost to the lex

I'm not defending Bon Iver or Fleet Foxes either. My aversion to those bands is the similar as yours to The Weeknd and Frank Ocean. It's like, people assume I must like them, but in fact I find them awfully dull and I get a bit RME when I think about how many other things came out this year that do a similar job but a squillion times better and don't get half way as many props.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm finding it rather ironic that there's this deluge of EOY lists when i'm still majorly anticipating albums that are either coming out now or in a week or two - robin thicke, rebecca ferguson, anthony hamilton, young jeezy...

although they have been helping me catch up with several i missed too. zodiac free arts club, kendrick lamar, gazelle twin, gloria estefan, julia holter...

SO MUCH MUSIC

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah the simplistic piano on "Someone" really bothers me -- if you're going to have only piano accompanying a voice like hers the playing should be equally rich and technically accomplished imo

Not if the intent is to showcase Adele; I think the logic was to make the piano part a simple platform upon which Adele could place a delicate vocal performance, to switch up from her usual "hey I am hollering at you and you love it" style.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

The song clearly follows the pattern intro-verse-prechorus-chorus-verse-prechorus-chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus-outro with slight variations in the melody in each section

She does a very good job of covering this up ;-)

Okay, I'll shut up about Adele now as it's upsetting people. Obviously, she's not my style or forte, but I still don't think I'm gonna get convinced that she's any more than the Coldplay/Fleet Foxes of her niche.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm finding it rather ironic that there's this deluge of EOY lists when i'm still majorly anticipating albums that are either coming out now or in a week or two - robin thicke, rebecca ferguson, anthony hamilton, young jeezy...

From a strictly PR standpoint, I'm still kind of surprised that people schedule these high profile type releases in mid-to-late December. They miss out on the EOY list stuff and, 9 times out of 10, they are completely forgotten about by the time next year's lists come out. I get its partially a holiday buzz thing to get people to buy the album's as Christmas gifts - but thats usually reserved for box sets and cash-grab remix collections or w/e.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm sure there is a compositional logic of "Someone" but it doesn't really work for me. usually when there's a rare hit with zero drums (John Legend's "Ordinary People" or Jazmine Sullivan's "Lions, Tigers & Bears") it feels like a nice little breather on radio playlists, but "Someone" kind of feels like dead air to me when it comes on.

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

From a strictly PR standpoint, I'm still kind of surprised that people schedule these high profile type releases in mid-to-late December

I'm facing this now with the Diddy and R. Kelly.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

rap blogs always refer to lower profile december releases as "tax writeoffs" but i have no idea if there actually is some kind of financial reality that makes it profitable for major labels to keep throwing out so many albums just before christmas.

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i do feel sorry for december releases when it comes to these things, yeah.

dog latin, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was excited about Thundercat album when it first came out, need to revisit it.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you are a record company trying to hit your balance sheet for the end of the year, and you have a guaranteed banking seller, do you care most about 1) lots of sales at a time when people who are not particularly into music are buying things or 2) critical acclaim?

Come on, it's hardly rocket science.

Wayland Smithee, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, sure, I guess I shouldn't have used "high profile" to cover all these. If we're talking an R. Kelly guaranteed seller, I get it, but say, someone like Anthony Hamilton who isn't QUITE at that level yet and would probably benefit from some critical buzz.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's definitely the xmas gift market! which is why most of these december releases are in commercially-oriented genres - the big pop, r&b and rap albums all often come out in nov/dec. those artists tend not to focus on EOY lists.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

It just means the label/artist doesn't care enough about critical rep, either because the artist is just being shoddily handled or because the artist is so massive they'll sell truckloads anyway, especialy a couple of weeks before Christmas. No one's going to hold that Susan Boyle album over til January so it can appear in 2012 lists.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

anthony hamilton makes traditional r&b. traditional r&b doesn't GET critical buzz, no matter when in the year it's released

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Hamilton record is excellent, lex.

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guys, I do get why they are released now, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense if they are looking for critical acclaim on these type of lists. If you're a label that drops the album on December 20th, you lose the right to bitch about it not showing up on EOY lists.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i still feel sad that i never got to put my #1 album of last year (diddy dirty monet) at the top of any of my lists ;_;

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, good point lex.

(xpost)

I'm anxious to hear the Hamilton.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

(diddy dirty monet)

inadvertent display name

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i put LTTP as my #2 after listening to it twice. not it'd be my #1 but still i'm glad at my rash decision last year. this week i'm trying to cram in some 11th hour listening to see how many impulsive changes i can make to my top 10.

sandbox banned socks (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i had it #3 on my p&j last year, behind titus andronicus & flockaveli. i'd bump it to #2 now.

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do crits not get promos a month before release date anymore? You'd think they would do that aggressively for the December releases. Or maybe they don't care as the lists aren't proven to affect sales much?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was fucking EIGHTH on my p&j ballot o_0 iirc i'd bumped it up to 2nd by the time of my ilm ballot, behind ciara. obviously 1st though.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahahahahaha at the idea of critics getting advance promos for major label shit

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

seems like most critics these days get the same 'advance' (i.e. internet leak) that everyone else gets for upcoming releases, with some big mags still getting intensely protected previews of major albums

sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

interscope were willing to fly me to LA to interview yelawolf, but not to let me hear the album at any point prior to my copy deadline

sometimes there are "listening parties" which basically mean getting to hear the album played at a stupidly loud volume, once, in a room full of other journalists, and occasionally some nasty sandwiches if they want to push the boat out (rihanna)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

what's in those nasty sandwiches

Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

at a Rihanna party? I'm guessing Spanish fly and panties

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

prepackaged cheese. going for an "eat what you hear" thing i guess

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's definitely the xmas gift market! which is why most of these december releases are in commercially-oriented genres - the big pop, r&b and rap albums all often come out in nov/dec. those artists tend not to focus on EOY lists.

I guess the inverse of this is the 'critic-bait' records that tend to come out in January, which is the best time for catching critics' attention, because they're all desperate to find the first great release of the new year to get their lists started.

o. nate, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

ROLLING STONE TOP 50 ALBUMS:

50 The Lonely Island – Turtleneck & Chain
49 Wavves – Life Sux
48 Charles Bradley – No More Time For Dreaming
47 PJ Harvey – Let England Shake
46 White Denim – D
45 Tedeschi Trucks Band – Revelator
44 Raphael Saadiq – Stone Rollin
43 The Kills – Blood Pressures
42 Destroyer – Kaputt
41 Little Dragon – Ritual Union
40 Gary Clark Jr. – The Bright Lights
39 Kurt Vile – Smoke Ring For My Halo
38 Mastodon – The Hunter
37 Panda Bear – Tomboy
36 Stephen Malkmus And The Jicks – Mirror Traffic
35 Dawes – Nothing Is Wrong
34 SuperHeavy – SuperHeavy
33 Josh T. Pearson – Last Of The Country Gentlemen
32 Big K.R.I.T. – Return Of 4Eva
31 Miranda Lambert – Four The Record
30 Tom Morello, The Nightwatchman – World Wide Rebel Songs
29 Pistol Annies – Hell On Heels
28 Das Racist – Relax
27 Florence & The Machine – Ceremonials
26 St. Vincent – Strange Mercy
25 Beyoncé – 4
24 Frank Ocean – Nostalgia, Ultra.
23 Tom Waits – Bad As Me
22 Drake – Take Care
21 Bon Iver – Bon Iver
20 Foo Fighters – Wasting Light
19 Eric Church – Chief
18 Feist – Metals
17 TV On The Radio – Nine Types Of Light
16 R.E.M. – Collapse Into Now
15 Cage The Elephant – Thank You Happy Birthday
14 Beastie Boys – Hot Sauce Committee Pt. 2
13 tUnE-YarDs – w h o k i l l
12 The Black Keys – El Camino
11 My Morning Jacket – Circuital
10 Robbie Robertson – How To Become Clairvoyant
09 Wild Flag – Wild Flag
08 Wilco – The Whole Love
07 The Decemberists – The King Is Dead
06 Lady Gaga – Born This Way
05 Radiohead – The King Of Limbs
04 Fleet Foxes – Helplessness Blues
03 Paul Simon – So Beautiful Or So What
02 Jay-Z & Kanye West – Watch The Throne
01 Adele – 21

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-best-albums-of-2011-20111207

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ROLLING IN THE DEEEE-

sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

pjh resting at no. 47 in rolling-stone's year-end poll.

sweeeeeeeeet.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

ROLLING STONE TOP 50 SINGLES OF 2011:

50. Red Hot Chili Peppers, 'Adventures of Raindance Maggie'
49. Pains of Being Pure at Heart, 'Heart In Your Heartbreak'
48. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds, 'The Death of You and Me'
47. Atlas Sound, 'Mona Lisa'
46. Mr. Muthafuckin’ eXquire et al., 'The Last Huzzah'
45. Cass McCombs, 'The Same Thing'
44. The Joy Formidable, 'The Everchanging Spectrum of a Lie'
43. Hayes Carll, 'KMAG YOYO'
42. Eleanor Friedberger, 'My Mistakes'
41. Coldplay, 'Paradise'
40. Girls, 'Vomit'
39. EMA, 'California'
38. Middle Brother, 'Blue Eyes'
37. Nas, 'Nasty'
36. Tom Waits, 'Satisfied'
35. R.E.M., 'We All Go Back To Where We Belong'
34. Das Racist, 'Girl'
33. Beastie Boys feat. Santigold, 'Don't Play No Games That I Can't Win'
32. Tune-Yards, 'Bizniss'
31. Killer Mike, 'Ric Flair'
30. Eric Church, 'Springsteen'
29. Adele, 'Rumour Has It'
28. Dawes, 'Million Dollar Bill'
27. Lady Gaga, 'You and I'
26. Miranda Lambert, 'Mama's Broken Heart'
25. Lykke Li, 'Youth Knows No Pain'
24. Smith Westerns, 'Weekend'
23. Tyler, the Creator, 'Yonkers'
22. Bon Iver, 'Holocene'
21. Paul Simon, 'The Afterlife'
20. Jay-Z and Kanye West, 'Welcome to the Jungle'
19. Lucinda Williams, 'Blessed'
18. Black Keys, 'Little Black Submarines'
17. Wilco, 'I Might'
16. Fleet Foxes, 'Lorelai'
15. TV on the Radio, 'You'
14. Sleeper Agent, 'Get It Daddy'
13. My Morning Jacket, 'Circuital'
12. Lloyd feat. Andre 3000 and Lil Wayne, 'Dedication to My Ex (Miss That)'
11. Foster the People, 'Pumped Up Kicks'
10 The Decemberists – “Don’t Carry It All”
09 Lil Wayne – “Six Foot Seven Foot” (Feat. Cory Gunz)
08 Beyoncé – “Countdown”
07 Lady Gaga – “Edge Of Glory”
06 Radiohead – “Lotus Flower”
05 Paul Simon – “Rewrite”
04 Foo Fighters – “These Days”
03 Britney Spears – “Till The World Ends”
02 Jay-Z & Kanye West – “*****s In Paris”
01 Adele – “Rolling In The Deep”

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-best-singles-of-2011-20111207

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes i think rolling-stone's no. 40 song might be my favorite song of the year. and i'm not even really a fan of the band.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

how did the decemberists beat foster the people

your voice of treason, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

how did the editors at rs remember that radiohead released a record this year

your voice of treason, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

we could have had it all

your voice of treason, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

How did Fester the Peehole make it to #11

btw one of my proudest achievements this year was getting my wife to refer to that band as Fester the Peehole

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

did far side virtual ever get a physical release? it probably did but its sorta s.thing to have an (initially) digital only release as yr best album of the year

blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

o____O @ rolling stone putting adele at #1

also i have no idea what one of the albums in the rolling stone top 10 is! i'm getting younger!

v-shasty, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Robertson album is the only one I wasn't aware of, though I know who Robertson is.

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

More WIre magazine lists...

no erstwhiles = fail

Archive Releases of the Year 1–50:

1 John Fahey Your Past Comes Back To Haunt You: The Fonotone Years 1958–1965 (Dust-To-Digital/Revenant)
2 Albert Ayler Stockholm, Berlin 1966 (HatOLOGY)
3 Bill Dixon Orchestra Intents And Purposes (International Phonograph)
4 Theo Parrish Ugly Edits (Ugly Edits)
5 Annette Peacock I’m The One (Ironic)
6 Disco Inferno The 5 EPs (One Little Indian)
7 LFO Frequencies (Warp)
8 Hecker Sun Pandämonium (PAN)
9 Steve Roden I Listen To The Wind That Obliterates My Traces: Music In Vernacular Photographs 1880–1955 (Dust-To-Digital)
10 Moniek Darge Sounds Of Sacred Places (Kye)
11 Christian Wolff Kompositionen 1950–1972 (Edition RZ)
12 Can Tago Mago 40th Anniversary Edition (Spoon/Mute)
13 Alice Coltrane Universal Consciousness/ Lord Of Lords (Impulse!)
14 Alvin Curran Solo Works: The 70s (New World)
15 Richard Skelton The Complete Landings (Sustain-Release)
16 Julius Hemphill Dogon AD (International Phonograph)
17 Craig Leon Nommos (No label)
18 Opika Pende: Africa At 78rpm Various (Dust-To-Digital)
19 Invasion Of The Mysteron Killer Sounds In 3D Various (Soul Jazz)
20 FMP: Im Rückblick – In Retrospect Various (FMP)
21 TCM The Criminal Minds (Rephlex)
22 Lionel Marchetti Une Saison (Monotype)
23 Dub Taylor Lumiere (Sub Rosa)
24 The Bachs Out Of The Bachs (Time-Lag)
25 The Fall This Nation’s Saving Grace Omnibus Edition (Beggars Banquet)
26 Dinosaur L 24→24 Music (Sleeping Bag)
27 Silver Bullet Bring Down The Walls No Limit Squad Returns (Original Dope)
28 Dicky Landry Fifteen Saxophones (Unseen Worlds)
29 Autechre EPs 1991–2002 (Warp)
30 Tav Falco’s Panther Burns Lore And Testament Vol 1: Behind The Magnolia Curtain/Blow Your Top (Stag-O-Lee)
31 Howard Riley The Complete Short Stories 1998–2010 (No Business)
32 Group Ongaku Music Of Group Ongaku 1960–1961 (Seer Sound Archive)
33 Demdike Stare Triptych (Modern Love)
34 Derek Bailey Concert In Milwaukee (Incus)
35 Roy Harper Stormcock (Believe Digital)
36 These Trails These Trails (Drag City)
37 Jason Lescallet This Is What I Do (Glistening Examples)
38 The Raincoats Odyshape (We ThRee)
39 Those Shocking Shaking Days: Indonesian Hard, Psychedelic, Progressive Rock & Funk 1970–1978 Various (Now Again)
40 Lee Konitz The Complete Remastered Recordings On Black Saint & Soul Note (Cam Jazz)
41 Ghédalia Tazartès Repas Froid (PAN)
42 Chris & Cosey Songs Of Love And Lust (Conspiracy International)
43 Nigeria 70: Sweet Times: Afro-Funk, Highlife & Juju From 1970s Lagos Various (Strut)
44 Tom Zé Grande Liquidação (Mr Bongo)
45 The Jesus And Mary Chain Psychocandy (Edsel)
46 Our Lives Are Shaped By What We Love: Motown’s MoWest Story 1971–1973 Various (Light In The Attic)
47 Christoph Heemann Rings Of Saturn (Robot)
48 Mickey Newbury An American Trilogy (Saint Cecilia Knows/ Mountain Retreat)
49 Delta Swamp Rock: Sounds From The South At The Crossroads Of Rock, Country And Soul Various (Soul Jazz)
50 Throbbing Gristle 20 Jazz Funk Greats (Industrial)

Avant Rock A–Z

Matt Baldwin Night In The Triangle (American Dust)
Barn Owl & The Infinite Strings Ensemble The Headlands (Important)
Ex-Easter Island Head Mallet Guitars One (Low Point)
Expo 70 Inaudible Bicoastal Trajectory (Aguirre)
Iceage New Brigade (Dais)
C Joynes Congo (Bo’Weavil)
Liturgy Aesthethica (Thrill Jockey)
The Men Leave Home (Sacred Bones)
Noveller Glacial Glow (Weird Forest)
Angel Olson Strange Cacti (Bathetic)
Peaking Lights 936 (Not Not Fun/Domino)
Skullflower Fucked On A Pile Of Corpses (Cold Spring)
Staccato Du Mal Sin Destino (Wierd)
Alexander Tucker Dorwytch (Thrill Jockey)
Village Of Spaces Alchemy And Trust (Corleone)

Critical Beats A–Z

Actress Twitter tracks (No label)
Africa Hitech 93 Million Miles (Warp)
BNJMN Black Square (Rush Hour)
Coki Don’t Get it Twisted (DMZ)
Darq E Freaker Cherryade (Oil Gang)
Funkystepz Fuller (Hyperdub)
Instra:Mental Resolution 653 (Nonplus)
Faze Miyake Take Off (Woofer Music)
Massive Attack vs Burial Four Walls (The Vinyl Factory)
Moony I’m A UK G (Gobstopper)
Morphosis What Have We Learned (Delsin)
Preditah Circles (No label)
Andy Stott We Stay Together (Modern Love)
Swindle/Royal T Mood Swings VIP/Orangeade VIP (Butterz)
Bangs & Works Vol 2: The Best Of Chicago Footwork Various (Planet Mu)

Dub A–Z

Lee Perry & The Upsetters The Return Of Sound System Scratch (Pressure Sounds)
Disrupt & Soom T Ode To A Carrot (Jahtari)
King Midas Sound Without You (Hyperdub)
Bunny Lee & The Aggrovators Dub Will Change Your Mind (King Spinna)
Lee ‘Scratch’ Perry Nu Sound & Version (On-U Sound)
Muslimgauze Babylon Iz Iraq (Fathom)
RSD Go In A Good Way (Zettai Mu)
African Head Charge Voodoo Of The Godsent (On-U Sound)
The Revolutionaries Dial M For Murder In Dub Style (Pressure Sounds)
Deadbeat Drawn & Quartered (BLKRTZ)

Electronica A–Z

Balam Acab Wander/Wonder (Tri Angle)
Ursula Bogner Sonne = Blackbox (Faitiche)
Borden/Ferraro/Godin/Halo/Lopatin FRKWYS 7 (FRKWYS)
Margaret Dygas Margaret Dygas (Perlon)
Ekoclef Tapeswap (Magic & Dreams)
Lawrence English The Peregrine (Experimedia)
Mark Fell Manitutshu (Editions Mego)
Steve Hauschildt Tragedy & Geometry (Kranky)
Kangding Ray OR (Raster-Noton)
Kuedo Severant (Planet Mu)
Oneohtrix Point Never Replica
(Software/Mexican Summer)
Roll The Dice In Dust (Leaf)
Pinch & Shackleton Pinch & Shackleton (Honest Jon’s)
Andy Stott Passed Me By (Modern Love)
Cristian Vogel Black Swan (Sub Rosa)

Global A–Z

Bambara Mystic Soul: The Raw Sound Of Burkina Faso 1974–1979 Various (Analog Africa)
ZM Dagar & ZF Dagar Ragini Miyan Ki Todi (Country & Eastern)
Fanafody: A Collection Of Recordings & Photography From Madagasikara Vol II Various (Mississippi)
Franco & Le TPOK Jazz Francophonic Vol 1 1953–1980 (Sterns)
Jeong Ga Ak Hoe Gagok (Female)
Pungnyu III (Akdang)
Issa Juma & Super Wanyika Stars World Defeats The Grandfathers – Swinging Swahili Rumba 1982–1986 (Sterns)
Korea: Jongmyo Jeryeak: Ritual Music For The Royal Ancestors Various (Ocora)
Seun Kuti & Egypt 80 From Africa With Fury: Rise (Knitting Factory)
Opika Pende: Africa At 78rpm Various (Dust-To-Digital)
Tabu Ley Rochereau The Voice Of Lightness Vol 2 (Sterns)
Young Ho Shu Ajaeng Sanzo (Akdang) Omar Souleyman Haflat Gharbia: The Western Concerts (Sublime Frequencies)
Wallahi Le Zein!!: Wezin, Jakwar, And Guitar Boogie From The Islamic Republic Of Mauritania Various (Latitude)
Emin Yagci Tulum: A Sound From The Black Sea (Felmay)
Lingling Yu/Guo Gan Yue Luo: Jiangnan Sizhu Music (Felmay)

Hiphop A–Z

Chris Brown featuring Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes Look At Me Now (Jive)
Danny Brown XXX (Fools Gold)
Jay-Z & Kanye West Niggas In Paris (Def Jam)
Kendrick Lamar Section 80 (TDE)
Lil B Bitch Mob: Respect Da Bitch Vol 1 (No label)
Meek Mill House Party (Maybach Music Group)
Mr Muthafuckin’ Exquire Huzzah (YouTube clip)
Tyler, The Creator Yonkers (OFWGKTA/XL)
Don Trip & Starlito Step Brothers (No label)
Waka Flocka Flame Duflocka Rant (No label)

Jazz & Improv A–Z

Derek Bailey Concert In Milwaukee (Incus)
Billy Bang’s Survival Ensemble Black Man’s Blues (NoBusiness)
Michel Doneda/Jonas Kocher/ Christoph Schiller ///Grape Skin (Another Timbre)
Dörner/Dafeldecker/Johansson Der Kreis Des Gegenstandes (Monotype)
Bertrand Denzler Tenor (Potlach)
Klaus Filip & Nikos Veliotis Slugabed (Hibari)
Flow Trio Set Theory, Live At The Stone (Ayler)
Hession/Wilkinson/Fell Two Falls & A Submission (Bo’Weavil)
Charlotte Hug Slipways To Galaxies (Emanem)
Eli Keszler Oxtirn (ESP)
Mural Live At The Rothko Chapel (Rothko Chapel)
William Parker Crumbling In The Shadows Is Fraulein Miller’s Stale Cake (Centering)
Akira Sakata & Chikamorachi Live At Hungry Brain (Family Vineyard)
Sheriffs Of Nothingness A Summer’s Night At The Crooked Forest (Sofa)
David S Ware/Cooper-Moore/William Parker/Muhammad Ali Planetary Unknown (AUM Fidelity)

Modern Composition A–Z

John Cage The Works For Percussion 1 (Mode)
Friedrich Cerha Bruchstück, Geträumt/Neun Bagatellen/ Instants (Kairos)
Alvin Curran Solo Works: The 70s (New World)
Luc Ferrari Piano And Percussion Works (Hat HUT)
Hans G Helms Fa:m’ Ahniesgwow (Wergo)
Ben Johnston String Quartets (New World)
David Lumsdaine Big Meeting (NMC)
Roger Reynolds Sanctuary (Mode)
Richard Skelton The Complete Landings (Sustain-Release)
Christian Wolff Kompositionen 1950–72 (Edition RZ)

Outer Limits A–Z

Bee Mask Canzoni Dal Laboratorio Del Silenzio Cosmico (Spectrum Spools)
Frieder Butzmann Wie Zeit Vergeht (PAN)
Caboladies Renewable Destination (Students Of Decay)
Cut Hands Afro Noise I (Very Friendly/Susan Lawly)
Head Boggle Unsounds And Domo Live (NNA Tapes)
Hecker Speculative Solution (Editions Mego)
Idea Fire Company Music From The Impossible Salon (Kye)
Thomas Lehn & Marcus Schmickler Live Double Séance [Antaa Kalojen Vida] (Editions Mego)
John Mannion Slice Through Or/In Glassmetal (Hanson)
Francisco Meirino Recordings Of Voltage Errors, Magnetic Fields, On-Site Testimonies & Tape Tension (Misanthropic Agenda)
Jim O’Rourke & Christoph Heemann Plastic Palace People Vol 1 (Streamline)
Peterlicker Nicht (Editions Mego)
Raionbashi/Krube Split (Hrönir)
Rodger Stella/Kites Interior Moon (Mutter Wild)
Werewolf Jerusalem Confessions Of A Sex Maniac (Second Layer)

Size Matters A–Z

Chora Songs From The Husk-Hair Malt (Winebox Press MC)
Tom Fazzini Stats (Loophamystery 7")
Lantern Deliver Me From Nowhere (Electric Voice MC)
Leopard Et Moi L’Amour De La Nature (Brise-Cul MC)
Mad Nanna I’ve Been Talking (Alberts Basement 7")
Matsuo Ohno Play On Animals (Em 7")
Bill Orcutt All Tongues/Tender Bottoms (Palilalia 7")
Primitive Calculators/Slug Guts Pumping Ugly Muscle split (Sweet Rot 7")
3 Toed Sloth … against the odds (Unwucht 2×7")
Wonderfuls Piss Fist (Negative Guest List 7")

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

no erstwhiles = fail

that is just a c&p fail btw

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

those lists are A LOT better than their disappointing main one i think

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for that! I award you the 2011 Don Quixote award for services to transcription.

END BRONY CAPITALISM (sean doily), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

wasn't me (for once)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, those lists make a lot more sense to me than the meta-list. Though the hip-hop one doesn't look that good to me - anyone who's actually more of a head about that stuff disagree? (I actually like a couple of things in it, it just looks... like they haven't dug that deep?)

Illia Rump (emil.y), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure how iceage or the men are "avant rock" but all genre names are dumb so whatever

n/a, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

wire hip hop lists are usually just noz i think, it's a pretty decently representative list of things a lot of people liked, and one of the only kind of surprise picks (meek mill's "house party") is a song i love so i can't complain

sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would like to hear these:

Korea: Jongmyo Jeryeak: Ritual Music For The Royal Ancestors Various (Ocora)
Wallahi Le Zein!!: Wezin, Jakwar, And Guitar Boogie From The Islamic Republic Of Mauritania Various (Latitude)

And maybe a couple of the others that look Korean to me. I know there's got to be some Korean music I would like but the recordings I've hear are either pop that I'm not into, too avant-garde, or some overly rarified court music. But I've heard some Korean melodies that were amazing. Also, I bet some less traditional Mauritanian music could hook me in, in a big way. (Dimi Mint Aba was great live partly because of the sheer power of her voice, but I find the recordings mostly inaccessible.)

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why does most avant-rock I check out have troubled angular rhythms?

Occidental Rudipherous, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

theres some great, overlooked stuff in the outer limits list but that peterlicker tape was garbage

i didnt realize that noz did the hip hop list himself, i thought it was weird that they didnt go more of the cloud rap, wire-y hip hop released this year

blah blah blah (є(٥_ ٥)э), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno if he did it entirely on his own but it seemed like the last year or two it was all or mostly him, i was just saying

sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

hip hop's list is on point & is all noz

sisilafami, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am just not getting this James Ferraro stuff.

sir thermo of thinwall, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

only posting this list because the no. 3 album -- Matana Roberts' Coin Coin Chapter One: Gens de Couleur Libres -- is really good. not for everyone, it can be skreechy and abrasive at times, but at its best, it is powerful, raw jazz.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually the overall list looks interesting. i just haven't had enough exposure to many of the titles listed on it.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

So many of the African albums on that Wire Global list are reissues. And I see they are still doing a dub reggae list but not a dancehall one...

Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait guys i think i just figured out what curmudgeon's new display name is

sockness, just sockness (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

ding ding ding! You win

Another Suburbanite, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rudipherous: The Wallahi le Zain comp is decent. I would say for pure enjoyment's sake, there is no need for it to be 2 cds, it's bloated. On the anthropological tip maybe the 2 cds is necessary.

The music is decent, but a lot of the songs start sounding same-y even to someone familiar with the different styles, mostly because of the guitar tones. But it's not like there's a glut of Mauritanian music so any is appreciated. I would like to see more releases of haraatin music though.

Also it was kind of weird reading the liner notes, the compiler talked about how this music was party and wedding music and he discussed the community aspect of the dancing and stuff, which is cool and all but kind of puts the listener in a weird space because we are necessarily listening to the comp in absentia of the wedding parties. I don't think the vibe he was trying to capture by taping live instead of studio recordings really comes across.

Ivor, Thursday, 8 December 2011 00:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

james ferraro album rules but i had no idea critics would be into it at all

magicrealism, Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i know one who isnt

regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 8 December 2011 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

well he's certainly no skrillex

magicrealism, Thursday, 8 December 2011 06:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is two days late, but that Wye Oak album ... I can understand calling it "generic," because in a lot of ways it's a very dead-center kind of indie-rock, especially for anyone who perhaps enjoyed indie-rock in the later 90s. It is EXTREMELY good at that, though (which is not exactly common right now), and extremely interesting in its way, too.

Also:

I just have to accept that Nabisco is not interested in some 2011 things that I am--charting rap and r'n'b; African, Caribbean (soca & dancehall) and Latin music; country, southern soul and Americana.

Parts of this are true, but it's a lot to assume from one year's top-10 list! I mean, ten is a small number. I liked a lot of charting rap and r&b (and pop, a country) this year, just nothing that stuck out to me in a top-10 way in album form. And I've have felt silly shoehorning a record in just to prove that I paid attention to some country, or whatever.

But yes, a lot of those areas, especially internationally, I just don't know much about, and they're not really part of my purview job-wise -- I mean, I enjoy modern African pop, but I don't presume to be much of a "critic" or well-informed follower of it, just an ordinary listener. (And I already have to listen to a bunch of other stuff for work, so it's a lot less often that I can explore something out of personal curiosity. I also get the feeling I am a "slow" listener, if that makes sense.)

nabiscothing, Thursday, 8 December 2011 06:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another ten tracks from FACT
http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/4/

20: BLAWAN ‘GETTING ME DOWN’ (WHITE LABEL)
19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)
18: DISTAL ‘COKE BOTTLE’ (GRIZZLY)
17: PANGAEA ‘WON’T HURT’ (HESSLE AUDIO)
16: MASSIVE ATTACK vs. BURIAL ‘PARADISE CIRCUS’ (VINYL FACTORY)
15: INC. ‘MILLIONAIRESS’ (from 3 EP, 4AD)
14: OBJEKT ‘THE GOOSE THAT GOT AWAY’ (OBJEKT)
13: UNKNOWN ARTIST ‘SICKO CELL’ (SWAMP81)
12: XXXY ‘ORDINARY THINGS’ (TEN THOUSAND YEN)
11: LANA DEL RAY ‘VIDEO GAMES’ (INTERSCOPE)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah obviously one's top ten albums for the year inevitably become a postage stamp 'statement' about what you listen to and care about, but it really is a pretty small window into one's tastes that the absence of one thing or another really shouldn't be interpreted as a total lock of interest in that whole genre or anything (xpost)

Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

DEL REY. DEL REY. IT'S FUCKING DEL REY NOT DEL RAY

/subeditor snap

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

as in the spanish for king

aaargh

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

20: BLAWAN ‘GETTING ME DOWN’ (WHITE LABEL)
^^^^yes!!!! banger
19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)
^^kmt, ok the beat is good but none of those three are notable at all. why not just rep for another version of it so you recognise the beat without having to give space to chris brown? like this one for instance

17: PANGAEA ‘WON’T HURT’ (HESSLE AUDIO)
^^^uh what? this was one of those i haven't given a second's thought to since hearing it. Pangaea's "hex" was much better

14: OBJEKT ‘THE GOOSE THAT GOT AWAY’ (OBJEKT)
^^^weird, it was the flipside of this that i really loved! gorgeous stuff

12: XXXY ‘ORDINARY THINGS’ (TEN THOUSAND YEN)
^^ok i guess, i can't hear why you'd particularly highlight it

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Rolling Stone list is actually more progressive than the Wire list.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

But yes, a lot of those areas, especially internationally, I just don't know much about, and they're not really part of my purview job-wise

So New York Dominican band Aventura can play Madison Square Garden multiple nights and a New York City publication that covers a broad range of music, does not think that having any staffers or freelancers ever take note of that group, is part of their purview(the publication as opposed to you. No one writer is expected to cover everything) but all kinds of indie-rock is...

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a x-post to nabiscothing

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Rolling Stone list is actually more progressive than the Wire list.

― OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:50 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

heh otm

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

What is the definition of 'progressive' that you are using here? (Not disagreeing, I just literally have no idea what criteria you are using to describe something as 'progressive' in this context.)

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Progressive challops.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

to suit their tastes presumably
xp

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

OTOH it might be the fact that the Rolling Stone list actually has some women on it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

or politics then

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

19: CHRIS BROWN feat. BUSTA RHYMES & LIL WAYNE ‘LOOK AT ME NOW’ (JIVE)
^^kmt, ok the beat is good but none of those three are notable at all. why not just rep for another version of it so you recognise the beat without having to give space to chris brown? like this one for instance

there are 80 million versions of that song but they're all pretty much the same song.

also "great job diplo but sorry busta rhymes you just don't cut the mustard" is some horseshit

Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean I don't really know who's in 'Wonderful Piss Fist' but I'm just guessing here...

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

do you want to?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh, that's funny, because as far as I can tell both lists have two female artists in the top 10.

xpost to Matt DC.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

would be funny if it was an all female bubblegum group though
xp

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

emil.y check email btw for something you requested

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I could totally see a band called 'Wonderful Piss Fist' being made up of women. You guys just don't go to the right gigs, clearly.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

(not 'Wonderful Piss Fist')

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Though I do agree that the Wire needs to up its game in regard to coverage of female artists - they didn't even mention Vinyl Terror & Horror in the CooS review.)

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw it's Wonderfuls - Piss Fist

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Three women in the Wire to ten: Eliane Radigue, Laurel Halo and half of Hype Williams iirc

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not a single record I've bought has made it onto any of the EOY lists yet - and looking at the last installment of the FACT list it doesn't look like it will (one of the few where that might have happened)

april wowak, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

you know, I have said this about a bazillion times but really fuck Chris Brown forever

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ this Inc. track, is this 2011 or 1988?

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know, i think it's one of his better songs

(xpost)

Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

P.A.S.S.I.O.N. got him in a jam again

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

This Objekt track would be fantastic if the beat would commit to something

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if this version of "Sicko Cell" on Spotify is the same one they picked but, if it is, GOOD JOB FACT, this gets really really creepy and tense once the beat drops out; it does a good job of making me want to hear the entire mix I pulled it out of.

This XXXY song is kind of generic but simply having a driving house beat puts it above most of the other tracks FACT picked, lol

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

did you like the blawan track dan?

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Suburbanite: You might be overestimating the magazine's "wide range of coverage" -- it's mostly just me writing about pop records, someone else profiling local indie bands, and a classical critic. Aventura's probably "pop" enough to fall inside my purview (i.e., you could write about it as a pop thing, without any big background in Latin/Caribbean music), but I rarely feel like I have time to do that sort of thing justice; I'd want to take a while to really learn what I'm talking about! It'd be great if we had a regular freelancer with the background to cover that stuff quickly. (Also, I should get better at pitching.)

nabiscothing, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i felt sure the wire top ten would include the grouper recs

w33d fowler, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blawan wasn't on Spotify so I haven't tracked it down yet.

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone mentioned Anthony David as yet?

cybele, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bleep's top ten albums:

1. Byetone - SyMeta (raster-noton)
2. Rustie - Glass Swords (Warp)
3. John Maus - We Must Become The Pitiless Censors Of Ourselves (Upset The Rhythm)
4. patten - GLAQJO XAACSSO (No Pain In Pop)
5. Martyn - Ghost People (Brainfeeder)
6. Peaking Lights - 936 (WW / NNF)
7. Surgeon - Breaking The Frame (Dynamic Tension Records)
8. Roll The Dice - In Dust (The Leaf Label)
9. Nicolas Jaar - Space is Only Noise (Circus Company)
10. Roly Porter - Aftertime (Subtext)

http://bleep.com/?page=podcast&module=EOY
Buy

Neil S, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post to Nabisco--what's pop sometimes depends on how it is pitched and who is your editor I guess.

Another Suburbanite, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm this Blawan track is basically just a Brandy remix; it's good but not really killing me (tho headphones might be letting me down again)

again though, the presence of an actual beat elevates it above most of the other selections on the list

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a top ten to write and I one have 9 records--AND I'm worried that one won't even count. Argh.

cybele, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry--"only have".

cybele, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

in my experience at different publications, writers have a much bigger hand in coverage than editors. yes, sometimes you're assigned a story, but much more often you make a strong case for something new's inclusion

Mordy, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Bleep top ten is decent, would be interested to hear the record at #1.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also Dan you'd better do this when the RA list turns up rather than wasting your 2011 dance listening on this FACT list.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

byetone are p good iirc

still surprised to see a noton record at #1 of anything

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

On first listen I though the Byetone would be top ten of the year for me but I dunno, it didn't hit me as hard on subsequent listens. Still great though. Needs to be played very loud.

Number None, Thursday, 8 December 2011 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also Dan you'd better do this when the RA list turns up rather than wasting your 2011 dance listening on this FACT list.

lol, I honestly thought the FACT list would tie into my sensibilities; this really says more about how little I actually pay attention to FACT than anything else

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Byetoncé

jaymc, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Three women in the Wire to ten: Eliane Radigue, Laurel Halo and half of Hype Williams iirc

― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, December 8, 2011 7:37 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

and cindytalk

nuhnuhnuh, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sanpaku, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cindytalk weren't even in the top 10, anyway. Which is what we were considering.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Thursday, 8 December 2011 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

SPIN top 40 rap albums list, starring blurbs by at least three goons: http://bit.ly/amilliondollars

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, 8 December 2011 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

when did fact become a parody of themselves?

furnace mane, Thursday, 8 December 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is kind of hilarious to see pubs that at the beginning of the year would've been CLAMORING to have an odd future release to put in their top 10 just quietly shuffling goblin in the middle of their lists

Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of stuff i haven't heard in that spin list, must investigate

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Thursday, 8 December 2011 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah very useful list for sure

Mr. Stevenson #2, Thursday, 8 December 2011 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if it's that have become a parody of themselves, more that their brief has become easier to parody now that it's so familiar and entrenched.

Probably part of the life cycle of every publication with a really clear aesthetic.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 December 2011 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah lots i haven't heard in the spin list, good blurbs for the most part too. though most of the rap albums/mixtapes i was most excited by weren't ther ;_;

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice to see the serengeti album on the spin list (albeit at the bottom of the list) - one of my favorite underrated albums of the year

n/a, Thursday, 8 December 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

also re: the spin list: is it weird that they frame death grips as zach hill's project? i thought he just played drums on some of the stuff but wasn't really the creative force behind it, but also i don't really know much about how they operate so i could be wrong.

n/a, Thursday, 8 December 2011 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't normally point to specific pieces of my writing on here but i'm making an exception to point out that I totally used the best possible quote for my Gunplay blurb

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Am I missing out on Das Racist? I have been ignoring them for a couple years now.

Scotty Magee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

they aren't necessarily going to be everyone's type of thing but they have gone some way past "Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell" on their album this year

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

setting the bar high there

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

they aren't necessarily going to be everyone's type of thing

Lex, if you suddenly start digging Das Racist I will shocked, amazed and somewhat baffled!

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would be surprised if scotty magee liked das racist

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Checked a few jams out, no go for me.

Scotty Magee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Magnet - Best Of 2011: Electronic
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2011/12/07/best-of-2011-electronic/

1. AÉREA NEGROT Arabxilla (B-Pitch)
2. THUNDERCAT The Golden Age Of Apocalypse (Brainfeeder)
3. MACHINEDRUM Room(s) (Planet µ)
4. DOG LEATHER Greezy Man And Stinky Man Meets Smutty Ranks On Tarantula Hill (Ehse)
5. WASHED OUT Within And Without (Sub Pop)
6. HUDSON MOHAWKE Satin Panthers (Warp)
7. PANDA BEAR Tomboy (Paw Tracks)
8. SBTRKT SBTRKT (Young Turks)
9. SEBASTIAN Total (Ed Banger)
10. JAMES BLAKE James Blake (Universal Republic)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Magnet - Best Of 2011: Noise
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2011/12/08/best-of-2011-noise/

1. CHRISTINA KUBISCH Magnetic Flights (Important)
2. TELECUT POWERS Zion Traveler (Baked Tapes)
3. PETER J. WOODS Songs For Nothing (After Music)
4. SKIN GRAFT Dystrophy (Hanson)
5. YELLOW TEARS The Cult Of Yellow Tears (Hospital)
6. PETE SWANSON I Don’t Rock At All (Three-Lobed)
7. BLOOD STEREO Tape Hiss For Brainwash (Feeding Tube)
8. WHITE SUNS Waking In The Reservoir (ugEXPLODE)
9. C. SPENCER YEH 1975 (Intransitive)
10. SIGHTINGS Future Accidents (Our Mouth)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

that electronic list is terrible imo

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Magnet - Best Of 2011: Hip Hop
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2011/12/04/best-of-2011-hip-hop/

1. CURREN$Y Weekend At Burnie’s (Warner Bros.)
2. STALLEY Lincoln Way Nights (Intelligent Trunk Music) (SMC)
3. JAY-Z + KANYE WEST Watch The Throne (Def Jam)
4. SHABAZZ PALACES Black Up (Sub Pop)
5. MAIN ATTRAKIONZ 808s & Dark Grapes II (self-released)
6. BIG K.R.I.T. Return Of 4Eva (self-released)
7. RICK ROSS God Forgives, I Don’t (Maybach)
8. EVIDENCE Cats & Dogs (Rhymesayers)
9. TYLER, THE CREATOR Goblin (XL)
10. ACTION BRONSON Dr. Lecter (Fine Fabric Delegates)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

More Magnet lists here:
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/category/best-of-2011/

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

got stalley. wtf people

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dare a human on this earth to tell me a stalley lyric off the top of their heads

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i bet stalley doesnt remember his own lyrics

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Arabxilla is a pretty weird #1. It has its moments but a bunch of it is unlistenable imo.

thread of missing brony (sean doily), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

7. RICK ROSS God Forgives, I Don’t (Maybach)

lol so they made this list, what, 2 months ago assuming that this album was going to come out in december?

v-shasty, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

a lot of editors are really bad at their jobs

v-shasty, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

love love love arabxilla

nuhnuhnuh, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm glad to see the thundercat album getting a couple nods

furnace mane, Friday, 9 December 2011 00:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol, I honestly thought the FACT list would tie into my sensibilities; this really says more about how little I actually pay attention to FACT than anything else

I think the problem with FACT is that it styles itself as being a dance music title whereas a lot of the music it covers either isn't dance music at all or is bedroom music that appeals to people who like the idea of dance music more than actually dancing. There are honourable exceptions obviously but bar a handful of nights in London it doesn't seem to have any connection to actual club culture.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Arabxilla is a pretty weird #1. It has its moments but a bunch of it is unlistenable imo.

― thread of missing brony (sean doily), Thursday, December 8, 2011 11:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

I couldn't get into it as much as I wanted (that is to say I thought the concept and general vibe was great) but it's neat to see it at no.1 on a mag's list anyway

if that makes sense?

Extreme Lifestyle, Friday, 9 December 2011 10:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

AÉREA NEGROT Arabxilla - I love this record. I think this is the most interesting No 1 I've seen yet. The rest of the list is kinda iffy tho.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I couldn't listen to that album at all, and not just in a 'meh' way. I had a proper physical feelings of antipathy towards it. It's certainly a bold number one. Also, I can't fathom why they didn't have Rustie on that list, but stuff like Hudson Mohawke instead.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i found arabxilla completely unlistenable too tbh :(

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

but at the same time it's def a bold, unpredictable no 1 in a good way - far rather that than the sbtrkt, for example, which seems to be a "top 20 everywhere" token electronic album, which is tooooootes overrated

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

See that's just me - I'd much rather the No1 that half the listeners found "completely unlistenable" and the other half were all "wheee, best! thing! evah!" than some blahblah consensus pick that no one could find anything particularly wrong with but no one was willing to go handbags at dawn over. (repeat to fade)

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fairly sure that's accounting from the cross-the-board high placings for the Metronomy album as well. Which is kind of... not bad exactly but really is this it?

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 11:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

metronomy are so blahhh that i tend to fail to even take in their placing on EOY lists

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Propose new rule: if you are not willing to get in a fistfight over your AOTY then you cannot make it No 1.

I am generally pro-Metronomy but I couldn't get an aural hold on that album. Think it's leftover goodwill from ignoring them before? Dunno.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was reading about the Metronomy album and it sounded kind of interesting, in a conceptual way - but that said I really didn't like the c2008/9 album they did at all. Utterly ghastly. Is this any better/different?

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 11:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Propose new rule: if you are not willing to get in a fistfight over your AOTY then you cannot make it No 1.

would happily punch anyone dissing beyoncé so YES

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure I'm willing to get into a fistfight over an album about the horrors of war :/

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 11:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you are not willing to get in a fistfight over your AOTY

Last time I got *that* overboard with an album, it was "Voice of the 7 woods"

Good old Spotify means I can have-a-try of AÉREA NEGROT Arabxilla tonight.

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost Neither could I really see myself taking off my watch to defend a concept record about the bleakness of a Scottish fishing village.

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would totally take it outside the baaaaah with my friend Oliviaaaaaaah over my AOTY so I'm fine with it.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

FACT magazine tracks #10-1
http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/50-best-tracks-of-2011-50-41/5/

10: ITAL ‘CULTURE CLUBS’ (LOVERS ROCK)
09: ZOMBY ‘NATALIA’S SONG’ (4AD)
08: AZEALIA BANKS ’212′ (SELF-RELEASED)
07: ROCKWELL ‘ARIA’ (CRITICAL AUDIO)
06: JOHN MAUS ‘QUANTUM LEAP’ (UPSET THE RHYTHM)
05: S-X ‘WOOOO RIDDIM’ / DJ Q REMIX (BUTTERZ WHITE)
04: FRANK OCEAN ‘NOVACANE’ (from NOSTALGIA, ULTRA. SELF-RELEASED)
03: RUSTIE ‘ULTRA THIZZ’ (WARP)
02: MOSCA ‘BAX’ (NUMBERS)
01: TYLER, THE CREATOR ‘YONKERS’ (XL)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh dear.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

and kmt

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

"oh dear" and "kmt" and a massive fucking side-eye to the guardian's top 10 so far too. what are my fellow critics LIKE :(

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would pay you to stop posting "kmt"

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol
set up a paypal account. Could make a fortune for a charity

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

gotta love how americans think kmt is just a thing i do rather than REALLY COMMON SLANG

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

alix & pip

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

kiss my taint

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is? I've only ever seen you say it tbf

xps

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

among whom is it common slang, though?

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why is it taking the Guardian so fucking long to roll out their top ten?

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

RA haven't even started their 50 yet!

april wowak, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

among whom is it common slang, though?

last time that was asked he said Jamaican women in London iirc

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha wow there isn't a single good record in the Graun's top 10 so far.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i was getting at how a) that's part of why it's obnoxious when he does it and b) that's why nobody else on ilx ever says it.

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

kmt = caribbean diasporic slang that has become part of the lingua franca of british urban youth. i dunno, do your own research. tons of people i know use it

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

dunno if british is right lex. Seems like its a part of london only, certainly not used across the whole of the UK

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 9 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've only ever seen two people do it in real life: An enormous Jamaican dude outside a pub who insisted on telling me about how he once produced the Clash, and a skinny junkie kid who I think was looking to steal my wallet...

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've seen plenty of people from manchester and birmingham use it

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a bit like when Prince Harry says 'BRAP!'

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would not have been mad at FACT if they had put Frank Ocean at #1

However, they put Tyler there instead, so hell yes I am mad at them

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

also everything I could find on Spotify has been added to the FACT playlist

http://open.spotify.com/track/7ItGBG7x9PbJssFgRgB0yj

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't care about tyler's album but "yonkers" is a pretty undeniable "oh shit" banger of a track

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't care, fuck Tyler

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Billboard speaks:

http://www.billboard.com/#/charts-year-end/hot-100-songs?year=2011

1 "Rolling In The Deep" - Adele
2 "Party Rock Anthem" - Lmfao Featuring Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
3 "Firework" - Katy Perry
4 "E.T." - Katy Perry Featuring Kanye West
5 "Give Me Everything" - Pitbull Featuring Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
6 "Grenade" - Bruno Mars
7 "F**K You (Forget You)" - Cee Lo Green
8 "Super Bass" - Nicki Minaj
9 "Moves Like Jagger" - Maroon 5 Featuring Christina Aguilera
10 "Just Can't Get Enough" - The Black Eyed Peas

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't care, @fucktyler

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"yonkers" beat is terrible, banger status denied

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i heard the "yonkers" beat as the bumper music on rap & r&b stations for months, get outta here

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah the "Yonkers" beat is fantastic, no matter what else you may think of Tyler.

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i kind of think as a "banger" as something you can dance to, "yonkers" is too...dour

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought "Pumped Up Kicks" would make the final Billboard list but otherwise expected.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah me too -- #13 not too far off though

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i kind of think as a "banger" as something you can dance to

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, December 9, 2011 3:33 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

nope

n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is "Firework" not a banger?

(I thangyew)

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Friday, 9 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

As long as you can nod your head to it...

Number None, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

someone post that informative youtube video about how white ppl can't kmt irl

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 9 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 9 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Billboard list is making me rethink my policy of letting my wife control the radio stations in the car; that is basically what we heard all year in the mornings

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Firework" honestly makes me think of the noise made when you pull the sides of a balloon's mouthpiece and slowly let the air out.

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Firework" is self-evidently the worst song on that list IMO

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

"firework" is a contender for worst song EVER imo

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

and "Super Bass" is self-evidently the best.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Firework" is self-evidently the worst song on that list IMO

― OH NOES, Friday, December 9, 2011 9:54 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

"firework" is a contender for worst song EVER imo

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, December 9, 2011 9:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

i would agree w/ both of these things except for the thing where "ET" is also on the list

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard Super Bass, but I bet I'd like it.

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would agree w/ both of these things except for the thing where "ET" is also on the list

lol, I have much time for "ET" completely against my better judgment; I think I just like Katy Perry the most when she's being a stompy non-preachy monster

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

"super bass" was the song i had most in-the-wild moments to this year. rapping every word at so many house parties <3

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just the other day one of our students said, amazed, "You like 'Super Bass' and not Drake?"

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd probably rank the Billboard songs like this:

1 "Rolling In The Deep" - Adele
2 "Party Rock Anthem" - Lmfao Featuring Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
6 "Grenade" - Bruno Mars
4 "E.T." - Katy Perry Featuring Kanye West
7 "F**K You (Forget You)" - Cee Lo Green
8 "Super Bass" - Nicki Minaj
9 "Moves Like Jagger" - Maroon 5 Featuring Christina Aguilera
5 "Give Me Everything" - Pitbull Featuring Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
10 "Just Can't Get Enough" - The Black Eyed Peas
3 "Firework" - Katy Perry

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I ever hear Moves Like Jagger again I'm gonna fucking punch a wall

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

should be a poll imo

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink



OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the chorus of that song a lot, don't really like xtina on it at all but what else is new

v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Someone at work keeps singing it at me because they know it winds me up.

xposts oh you cunt.

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

when i was in russia i heard "moves like jagger" like literally 5 times a day. i kind of...came round to it :(

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

basically exactly what miami did to me 12 months previously with "only girl in the world"

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for breaking my browser.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

just change the lyric to "louis jagger" in your head, might make it funnier.

dog latin, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

it could be worse, if I had mod powers here I could have made them all autoplay

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

the only one of those songs that i know for sure i've heard is fuck you; i think maybe i've heard party rock anthem and firework also.

n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh i've heard super bass too, nevermind.

n/a, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

A nation thanks god that you were exposed to kryptonite then.

xxpost

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just the other day one of our students said, amazed, "You like 'Super Bass' and not Drake?"

Was the angle Drake-love or pop-hate?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

really "Firework" is the only one I find unbearable; the one that gets consistently underrated is "Grenade"

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

"If you like that thing, then there's no reason why you can't love Drake too."

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Super Bass is far and away the best thing on that Billboard list.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Super Bass" suffers a little from the start-stops and the bridge is somewhat disconnected from the rest of the song

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

only one that comes close is "give me everything"

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

is it wrong that I look at that Billboard list and think to myself "LOL @ Blake Shelton"?

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't mind "Give Me Everything" now, thanks to our Clear Channel station playing it every 14 seconds.

Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Although I tend to think of Super Bass as an end-credits mallpop song rather than a rap record.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

gimme a few minutes and i'll do a poll of the top 50 hot 100 songs where we can take this convo

Mr. Stevenson #2, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Super Bass" is prob. best on that list, though my weakness for disco-pop means I also like "Rolling in the Deep" and "Moves Like Jagger."

jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hate Katy Perry's voice on "Firework," but I think it's a well-constructed pop song.

jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

seriously, the "MO-oo-OO-oo-oo-oo-ves" part gives me some weird pokemon j-pop vibes that i dont really understand why

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

ay-yi-yi
I'm your little butterfly
With the moo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-ooves like Jagger

OH NOES, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

"super bass" is the best big pop single of the year - everyone still goes crazy when it comes on at parties/clubs/any public space. could've been "countdown" though if beyoncé had given it a proper push. ;_;

bayou goo, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hate Katy Perry's voice on "Firework," but I think it's a well-constructed pop song.

yeah totally. actually I don't even mind her voice on it. I'm a little surprised everybody hates it.

Moves Like Jagger and ET are awful though.

chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Friday, 9 December 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

my personal list is up on reviler

http://www.reviler.org/2011/12/09/best-of-reviler-2011-albums-part-1/

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

(i already don't like it though, i forgot a lot of stuff)

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Juno - Best of 2011
http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2011/12/08/best-of-2011-top-20-albums-2/

20 Planetary Assault Systems - The Messenger
19 Omar S - It Can Be Done, But Only I Can Do It
18 Hype Williams - One Nation
17 Maria Minerva - Cabaret Cixous
16 Lucy - Wordplay For Working Bees
15 Laurel Halo - Hour Logic
14 Reel by Real - Surkit Chamber: The Melding
13 Legowelt - The TEAC Life
12 Morphosis - What Have We Learned
11 Pinch & Shackleton - Pinch & Shackleton
10 Sully - Carrier
9 Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica
8 Zomby - Dedication
7 Cosmin TRG - Simulat
6 BNJMN - Plastic World
5 2562 - Fever
4 Peaking Lights - 936
3 Andy Stott - Passed Me By/We Stay Together
2 Machinedrum - Room(s)
1 Martyn - Ghost People

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Pinch & Shackleton album hasn't made a lot of lists cos it's only come out in the last couple of weeks, but it's a really great album imo

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, people really seem to like that Peaking Lights album. Didn't really do much for me, although i only heard it once

Number None, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Epic third place for Lulu on yr list Matt.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

psychic savagery

smh, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Glad to see that Cosmin TRG album making an appearance.

boxedjoy, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Peaking Lights didn't do much for me either, and I bought the fucker

mainz, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Wire's Tony Herrington lays out their voting process in deep detail over here: http://www.thewire.co.uk/themire/2011/12/suffering-through-suffrage-compiling-the-wires-rewind-charts

rob (night house), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Peaking Lights is growing on me, I only gave it half a listen but started coming back to it now. It's cool.

chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

heard the Pinch & Shackleton playing in store last time I was in Other Music and it sounded good to me

chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

MSN top 50 by an ilxor

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didnt like 936 for the longest time, but then I listened to it on headphones and the dubbiness came alive to me: it's one of my favorites now...

but yeeeeah M@tt; putting Brute Heart in #2!!

acid mothers against drunk driving (henrietta lacks), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Only just got around to hearing the Legowelt and it's pretty sweet.

PS it's free to download from http://www.legowelt.com/ (but there is an option to make a donation too)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, 9 December 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

kiss my taint

― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Friday, December 9, 2011 5:47 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

literally clapped for like half a min at this

furnace mane, Friday, 9 December 2011 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Goog grief:

Magnet Magazine best albums of 2011

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2011/12/09/magnet%E2%80%99s-top-20-albums-of-2011/

20. JAMES BLAKE | James Blake (Universal Republic)
19. PANDA BEAR | Tomboy (Paw Tracks)
18. THURSTON MOORE | Demolished Thoughts (Matador)
17. ELEANOR FRIEDBERGER | Last Summer (Merge)
16. THE KILLS | Blood Pressures (Domino)
15. WILCO | THE WHOLE LOVE (DBPM)
14. TUNE-YARDS | w h o k i l l (4AD)
13. BON IVER | Bon Iver (Jagjaguwar)
12. RADIOHEAD | The King Of Limbs (TBD)
11. FUCKED UP | David Comes To Life (Matador)
10. BILL CALLAHAN | Apocalypse (Drag City)
9. BIRD OF YOUTH | Defender (Jagjaguwar)
8. WYE OAK | Civilian (Merge)
7. BRIGHT EYES | The People’s Key (Saddle Creek)
6. R.E.M. | Collapse Into New (Warner Bros.)
5. PJ HARVEY | Let England Shake (Vagrant)
4. STEPHEN MALKMUS AND THE JICKS | Mirror Traffic (Matador)
3. WILD FLAG | Wild Flag (Merge)
2. TOM WAITS | Bad As Me (Anti-)
1. YUCK | Yuck (Fat Possum)

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

first pub to give into rem breakup sympathy?

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

collapse into ew

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Had no idea Magnet still existed!

jaymc, Saturday, 10 December 2011 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

(No Bob Pollard on the list, though?)

jaymc, Saturday, 10 December 2011 14:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Collapse Into New made top 20 in cutting-edge publication Rolling Stone

superstition or schizophrenia? (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 10 December 2011 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol Collapse into Now

superstition or schizophrenia? (henrietta lacks), Saturday, 10 December 2011 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Firework" - Katy Perry> "moves like jagger"

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

both those songs are a pockmark on music. pure abominations. they make me want to stab screwdrivers into my ears. Moves Like Jagger is highly irritating, but I think Fireworks is the pinnacle of offensive pop in 2011.

dog latin, Saturday, 10 December 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm more offended by Bon Iver

Another Suburbanite, Saturday, 10 December 2011 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.billboard.com/#/features/the-beat-generation-electronic-dance-music-1005652552.story

But why, after 30 years of relative obscurity, was 2011 finally dance music's time? Theories abound: the equalizing quality of the Internet and the social-media generation's intense drive to share everything; a general staleness of other formerly dominant genres, like rock and hip-hop; a generational opt-out from recession anxiety; the rise of Las Vegas as an international dance destination; a few key pop figures stealthily championing the cause.

" Lady Gaga and Black Eyed Peas had a lot to do with it," Oakenfold says. "They took the essence of dance music and put it into top 40 records. It was there without people even knowing it."

Lots of Billboard detail on Skrillex and Swedish House Mafia...

Another Suburbanite, Sunday, 11 December 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

here's the BBC Music writers' individual albums of the year which I know everyone was very keen to see http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2011/12/bbc_music_writers_albums_of_20.html

there are a few ilx posters in there and also some of the absolute worst choices imaginable

Extreme Lifestyle, Sunday, 11 December 2011 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

"latin but cool"

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Monday, 12 December 2011 07:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Top 100 Tracks of 2011 (100-51)

100.Thundercat - For Love (I Come Your Friend)
99. Ill Blu - Meltdown
98. Unknown Mortal Orchestra - Ffunny Ffrends
97. Fever Ray - The Wolf
96. Peaking Lights - All the Sun That Shines
95. Kendrick Lamar - A.D.H.D.
94. Sepalcure - Pencil Pimp
93. Wild Flag - Romance
92. Jacques Greene - Another Girl
91. Thee Oh Sees - “The Dream”
90. Grimes – Vanessa
89. SBTRKT – Wildfire [ft. Little Dragon]
88. Cities Aviv – Coastin
87. Zoo Kid – Out Getting Ribs
86. Blawan – Getting Me Down
85. Junior Boys – Banana Ripple
84. Iceage – You're Blessed
83. Tiger & Woods – Gin Nation
82. John Maus – Believer
81. Yuck – Get Away
80. Fucked Up – Queen of Hearts
79. Kelly Rowland [ft. Lil Wayne] – Motivation
78. Sandro Perri – Changes
77. Cults – Abducted
76. Julianna Barwick – Prizewinning
75. Washed Out – Amor Fati
74. Dum Dum Girls – Wrong Feels Right
73. tUnE-yArDs – Powa
72. Britney Spears [ft. Nicki Minaj & Ke$ha] – Till the World Ends (The Femme Fatale Remix)
71. The Men – Bataille
70. Holy Ghost! - Jam For Jerry
69. Neon Indian – Polish Girl
68. The Joy Formidable – Whirring
67. Rihanna [ft. Calvin Harris] – We Found Love
66. DJ Quik – Killer Dope
65. Fleet Foxes – Grown Ocean
64. Toro Y Moi – New Beat
63. Bon Iver – Perth
62. Liturgy – Generation
61. Eleanor Friedberger – My Mistakes
60. Adele – Someone Like You
59. Mr. Muthafuckin' eXquire [ft. Despot, Das Racist, Danny Brown, and El-P] – The Last Huzzah! (Remix)
58. PJ Harvey – The Words That Maketh Murder
57. The Weeknd – House of Balloons
56. M83 [ft. Zola Jesus] – Intro
55. Destroyer – Chinatown
54. Jamie xx / Gil Scott-Heron – I'll Take Care of U
53. Real Estate – Green Aisles
52. Action Bronson – Larry Csonka
51. Todd Terje – Snooze 4 Love

Dan S, Monday, 12 December 2011 08:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

"latin but cool"

― malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Monday, 12 December 2011 07:39 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol

dog latin, Monday, 12 December 2011 09:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

new display name obv

sean doily, Monday, 12 December 2011 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

yup

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Monday, 12 December 2011 11:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Paul Lester
1. The Weeknd - House of Balloons
2. The Weeknd - Thursday
3. StewRat - Spring
4. Tyler, the Creator - Goblin
5. Frank Ocean - nostalgia,ULTRA

that list is my nemesis

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure this was the best list there:

Ian Winwood
1. The King Blues - Punk & Poetry
2. The Decemberists - The King Is Dead
3. Arctic Monkeys - Suck It & See
4. Frank Turner - England Keep My Bones
5. Lou Reed and Metallica - Lulu

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 12 December 2011 12:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait, there's a band called New Look? Or is there an album of all the mallectro they play in New Look shops, because I would totally buy that record.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 12:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

going thru that pitchfrk list; props to J0rdan for the write up alongside the Kendrick track.

pandemic, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Melissa Bradshaw from that BBC writers' list has a 2010 album in her choices. Buffoon.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

She has two if you count Diddy Dirty Money as 2010 as well as Shangaan Electro.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah yes, I did actually wonder about that as I remembered it showing in the ilx poll. Couldn't remember if that was a single or album, though. Shangaan Electro wasn't even late 2010 as far as I recall!

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure this was the best list there:

Ian Winwood
1. The King Blues - Punk & Poetry
2. The Decemberists - The King Is Dead
3. Arctic Monkeys - Suck It & See
4. Frank Turner - England Keep My Bones
5. Lou Reed and Metallica - Lulu

We can debate the merits of the other records, but Frank Turner is truly beyond the pale.

Neil S, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

there is suddenly the very real possibility that my top 3 albums will all be in the guardian's top 4...

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

New Look is dope imo. A warm, minimalist synth-pop type thing.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't know who you voted for Lex, but there's been no Adele, Florence, PJ Harvey or err, M83 or Elbow yet. Can't think what else.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

there is suddenly the very real possibility that my top 3 albums will all be in the guardian's top 4...

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:41 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

lex I think it's a measure of the infectiousness of your enthusing that you appear to be incredibly good at winning over people around you to your likes. This will be quite a coup if it comes off.

Tim F, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really think i can take credit for people liking beyoncé and pj harvey. really it was NID that those three albums would be top 10 (just based on other guardian writers' taste), just didn't expect beyoncé and katy b to go top 4.

actually i'm quite spectacularly bad at winning people over to my personal likes that don't have momentum from elsewhere.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not getting at anyone but Beyonce, PJ Harvey and Katy B doesn't seem surprising for a Guardian list

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well yeah, what lex said

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxpost well you have heaps of direct influence on my list but then that's nothing new.

Tim F, Monday, 12 December 2011 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Feeling a bit "hmmm" on New Look but that's probably one to debate on the "arty electronica with girl vocals" thread.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

After last year's ILM tracks poll I don't think anyone should doubt Lex's powers.

sean doily, Monday, 12 December 2011 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess I should mention that P&J ballots sent this weekend.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 December 2011 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Beyonce is a lock for the Graun's top five actually.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like there's an unexploded Adele-bomb in there still and given the rest of the list I wouldn't be surprised to see something like the Girls album pop up in the top five. Obviously Let England Shake is a lock and Katy B is more likely to appear then Beyonce.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Actually I probably mean the Elbow album rather than the Girls album.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Elbow
Florence
Adele
PJ Harvey
Beyonce
Katy B

^ pick two that aren't going to make it

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Goblin will be top 4, surely?

ShariVari, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Florence is out, so straight fite for two places between Adele, Elbow & Beyonce.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

You know, I listened to the Florence album and the Austra album back to back and I'm a little nonplussed/bemused that people would ride hard for one and not the other since they are verging on identical aside from the guitar on Florence's album.

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Austra don't make intolerably racist videos for a start?

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

well okay, there is that

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Florence is pissing me off to a huge extreme with that actually, because I really fell hard for her album and then she completely fucked up one of the best songs on the album with that video

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

TBH, I had taken against FATM long before that but I can't really give you any quantifiable reason why apart from, "I just took against her" - I could not even tell you what the missing ingredient is in Austra that make me take to them, either. I'm useless as a critic.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Actually I totally get why one would not go for her Lungs material; from what I've heard, there's a lot of inappropriate bellowing happening throughout the album that gets reigned in a lot on Ceremonials, making it more effective when it does barrel into your ears.

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

LWE 30-21

30. EQD, Equalized#005-B
29. RNDM, Hideaway (Dub)
28. Tin Man, Nonneo (Donato Dozzy Remix)
27. Protect-U, World Music
26. Roman Flügel, Iron Curtain
25. Crystal Maze, Crystal Maze (Chicago Skyway Remix)
24. Martyn, Masks
23. Burial, Stolen Dog
22. The Citizen’s Band, West 42nd
21. Machinedrum, Come1

april wowak, Monday, 12 December 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha what the fuck is "Tiger & Woods"

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

house music ppl I believe

Extreme Lifestyle, Monday, 12 December 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 12 December 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

grady was hyping them to me a while back, which should give you an idea of what kinda music it is

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

tiger & woods is great

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah they sort of flit between house and nu-disco, they've released at least one free album this year that I've totally failed to listen to.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think they're pretty middle of the road as these producers go, none of their tracks hit for me like say the revenge or mark e or the better edit-creators or w/e, and 'gin nation' which is their big acclaimed single is way too close to the original -- a track off one of my favorite albums -- for me to feel like its earned its year end list spots personally.

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are a couple tracks of theres i think are v. good songs but 'gin nation' is too close to 'dj tool' for me to love it i guess

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, 12 December 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

man, I was almost totally unmoved by that Rapture album, it is really surprising to me that it is appearing on so many lists

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha the fact that yr tim hecker write up also mentions deaf center (my album of the year!) made me incredibly happy

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

:)

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

o_O why is the Weeknd blurb three times as long as every other blurb

OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Because the album felt three times as long as every other one?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

well its also for two albums

є(٥_ ٥)э, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i remember when whiney used to rail against sites that made you click through 93404833 times per list

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha the fact that yr tim hecker write up also mentions stephan mathieu (a static place is one of my albums of the year!) made me incredibly happy

sisilafami, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i remember when whiney used to rail against sites that made you click through 93404833 times per list

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Monday, December 12, 2011 2:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink

remember when lex pissed his pants because he's a drooling idiot and we all pointed and laughed at him

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Real talk tho, I think there's a huge, huge, huge difference between a 50-entry list with 10 clickthroughs and a 50-entry list with 50 clickthroughs but YMMV \O_o/

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

what was the one page after the number one album? i didn't click it. did i miss anything good?

v-shasty, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

A full-page color ad of whiney doing a handstand on his 50 albums.

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

planking on them actually

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's your opinion on your #1, WGW? I've not heard it - Fucked Up have never struck me as the most interesting band in the world, but I'd be willing to give it a try. Or are you about to start your own 'most regrettable Spin #1 albums' thread?

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it's fairly well documented what SPIN's most regrettable #1 was

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

That being said, Fucked Up is def on my P&J ballot, and is easily one of the best records I've heard all year in any genre

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, I'll see if I can find some tracks about, then. Worth a go. Though I think this year might actually be pretty chock full of albums I've loved already.

I think it's fairly well documented what SPIN's most regrettable #1 was

???

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

1991:
1. Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Your hard drive"

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha or that one

I left my login in El Sandboxo, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, yeah. Bwahahahahaaaaa.

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Your hard drive"

― Number None, Monday, December 12, 2011

Their debut album was pretty slow iirc

Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dunno it's due for a reappraisal

sean doily, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Top 100 Tracks of 2011 (50-1)

50. Atlas Sound – Mona Lisa
49. Katy B – Broken Record
48. Kreayshawn – Gucci Gucci
47. Battles [ft. Matias Aguayo] – Ice Cream
46. Ty Segall – Goodbye Bread
45. Drake – Headlines
44. Nicolas Jaar – Space Is Only Noise If You Can See
43. Panda Bear – Last Night at the Jetty
42. Jay-Z & Kanye West – Otis
41. Frank Ocean- Novacane
40. Burial – Street Halo
39. Shabazz Palaces – Swerve...the reeping of all that is worthwhile (Noir not withstanding)
38. Purity Ring – Ungirthed
37. A$AP Rocky – Peso
36. Jamie xx – Far Nearer
35. Charli XCX – Stay Away
34. Cut Copy – Need You Now
33. AraabMuzik – Streetz Tonight
32. Cold Cave – The Great Pan Is Dead
31. The Field – Then It's White
30. Clams Casino – Motivation
29. Jai Paul – BTSTU (Edit)
28. Danny Brown – Monopoly
27. The Rapture – How Deep Is Your Love?
26. Beyonce – 1 + 1
25. Soulja Boy – Zan With That Lean
24. Kurt Vile – Jesus Fever
23. Adele – Rolling in the Deep
22. Bill Callahan – Riding For the Feeling
21. Drake – Marvins Room
20. Gang Gang Dance – Glass Jar
19. Lana Del Rey – Video Games
18. St. Vincent – Cruel
17. Oneohtrix Point Never – Replica
16. Tyler, the Creator – Yonkers
15. The Weeknd – The Morning
14. Girls – Vomit
13. tUnE-yArDs – Bizness
12. Jay-Z/Kanye West – Niggas in Paris
11. James Blake – The Wilhelm Scream
10. DJ Khaled [ft. Drake, Rick Ross, and Lil Wayne] – I'm on One
9. Azealia Banks – 212
8. Cass McCombs – County Line
7. Beyonce – Countdown
6. Destroyer – Kaputt
5. Real Estate – It's Real
4. Nicki Minaj – Super Bass
3. EMA – California
2. Bon Iver – Holocene
1. M83 – Midnight City

Dan S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 06:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ the punchline of the top 3 #icanteven

tim f, or anyone else who is attempting to put together a personal tracks of the year, how do you do it? doing an albums list is fun cuz it's EASIER, mine is pretty much done. doing a tracks one, i'm just looking at this mass of 200+ amazing songs and flapping my hands cuz i don't know how to start

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

apropos of little, because there isn't a kate bush thread over here, people talk about the elton john song being the one that breaks the spell and they're not wrong, but i think i actually resent the final track more - it's so nothingy, but doesn't have that sense of heaviness or mood that the first three songs do, and essentially means the second half of the album is near-useless for me.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the song itself is good enough to withstand Elton, just. But I just don't believe his performance in it, he doesn't actually sound like he gets the emotional weight of the song at all, so when he's singing things like "I lost you in the London smog" he sounds like he's having the time of his life, it's just hammy in completely the wrong way.

Strangely I actually rather like Stephen Fry's appearance on the album, because he doesn't actually get in the way too much, it's just like a kind of ambient sound.

I like 50 Words For Snow okay but I'd have expected a new Kate Bush album to be a lock for my top 10 (if Aerial were released tomorrow it'd be top three easily) but it isn't really. Even the early piano-driven songs are a bit too repetitive to justify the length and relative sparseness. It works better as an ambient record in general actually. I do love 'Misty' though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree re the last track Lex, "nothingy" is precisely the word for it. I think this album's just about the first 3 tracks for me.

I think Kate is actually more annoying than Stephen on the title track! I don't mind weirdness from Kate obv but usually it's in service of something at least arguably meaningful.

Aerial was my no. 2 for 2005, 50 Words is just inside or outside my top 10 depending on mood.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

re tracks lists: there has been a lot of hand flapping going on. The reason I haven't done numbering before is that I didn't want to be locked in. Even now the ordering and the inclusions are changing a bit which will become more of a problem as I count down.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 09:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh there's nothing i dislike about the title track but at the same time there's nothing about it which makes me keep playing the album after "misty". "wild man" is just there as well. it's kind of fallen to the bubble of my top 20 now :/

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't really do any actual ordering - is more like here's 10 or 20 records I'm really into this year

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think i have to do numbering if only for tidiness purposes, rather than chucking a splurge of 200 songs on the internet

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good point! With a longer list numbering becomes more important. I try keep any kind of list relatively short though

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

capping the numbers leads to even more hands-flapping. which do i leave out? which to i keep in? aargh

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

why can't i type? *do

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

if it's a personal list rather than for a publication why not just post the whole lot? 200 amazing songs are 200 amazing songs. You don't need to cut any unless its a ballot.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

LWE 20-16

20. Levon Vincent, Man Or Mistress
19. Storm Queen, It Goes On
18. Kahn, Like We Used To
17. Juju & Jordash, Chelm Is Burning
16. Peverelist, Dance Til The Police Come

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

if it's a personal list rather than for a publication why not just post the whole lot? 200 amazing songs are 200 amazing songs. You don't need to cut any unless its a ballot.

― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011

Long lists make my eyes go funny

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

What is LWE?? Quite liking their list.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay, ta

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I adore "Dance Til The Police Come".

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think this is the first Kate Bush album in ages I haven't hated, precisely because it is so ~nothingy~ - I like it better all ambient like that. Elton John didn't even bother me so much because I didn't know it was him until I looked up the credits.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

RA Top 20 compilations of 2011
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1424

20. Various Artists - Mosaic Vol. 1 [Exit]
19. Nicholas - Back on Track: Nu Groove [Needwant]
18. Various Artists - IOTDXI [R&S Records]
17. Marcel Dettmann - Conducted [Music Man]
16. Ata - Live at Robert Johnson Vol. 7 [Live at Robert Johnson]
15. Robag Wruhme - Wuppdeckmischmampflow [Kompakt]
14. Various Artists - Back & 4th [Hotflush]
13. Various Artists - Laid Compilation [Laid]
12. Lawrence - Timeless [Cocoon]
11. Prosumer - Panorama Bar 03 [Ostgut Ton]

10. Various Artists - 116 & Rising [Hessle Audio]
09. Motor City Drum Ensemble - DJ-Kicks [!K7]
08. Jackmaster - Fabriclive 57 [fabric]
07. Wolf + Lamb vs. Soul Clap - DJ-Kicks [!K7]
06. Pearson Sound - Fabriclive 56 [fabric]
05. Marcel Fengler - Berghain 05 [Ostgut Ton]
04. Scuba - DJ-Kicks [!K7]
03. Dixon - Live at Robert Johnson Vol. 8 [Live at Robert Johnson]
02. Ben UFO - Rinse: 16 [Rinse]
01. Four Tet - Fabriclive 59 [Fabric]

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't have the Laid compilation but I've 3 or 4 tracks off that which are really good

Haven't heard that Lawrence mix but tracklisting looks good (I love Life Aquatic, and Forever Monna of course!)

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

genuinely surprised that online podcasts and mixes haven't completely killed off the official cd mix yet

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

beyoncé at #4 in the guardian list, fittingly :)

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just realized still not heard Bens mix yet either

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's good but it ruins itself by ending with how to dress well (cf jackmaster ending his fabric mix with radiohead)

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ all the drake on that pitchfork list, the dombals have taken over the asylum

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

guardian comments are the absolute worst - can't wait to see them cry more though when their precious M83/Wild Beasts/Elbow/Mastodon crap they're predicting is sidelined for an all female top 3 (actually 4) :D

bayou goo, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

genuinely surprised that online podcasts and mixes haven't completely killed off the official cd mix yet

I reckon mix CDs tend to have a bit more thought put into them? They're the closest many DJs get to releasing an album.

Also the best practical thing about listening to a commercially available mix = being able to identify tracks easily, rather than looking at an online tracklist and trying to work out whether you're on the 10th, 11th or 12th tune because you like something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I actually really dislike M83, I actually resent how lazy he is when it comes to going for BIG EMOTIONAL IMPACT.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

lulz tell me about it - i was gonna actually comment but when it descended into arguing about the beatlezzzz it was like, what is the point. hilarious outrage though. that thing where FT said you should be prepared to ~take it outside~ for your #1 album? i kind of feel i want to do that with some of the commenters.

i don't really have any idea what the non-PJH/Katy B album left to come is - really don't think it'll be adele because i genuinely can't think of any guardian writer who actually loves her particular. racist florence's album was released too late in the year surely?

xp i agree with you on identifying tracks, way prefer that - i think maybe too much effort can go into the commercially available ones though? certainly both ben ufo and jackmaster's felt overstuffed, as if they were so excited at having finally been given the chance to do a Proper CD Mix that they tried to say too much. both have done many many superior free mixes over the past couple of years.

and the two best mixes i've heard this year - âme and nguzunguzu - were both notable for being pretty light-touch and loose.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really have any idea what the non-PJH/Katy B album left to come is - really don't think it'll be adele because i genuinely can't think of any guardian writer who actually loves her particular. racist florence's album was released too late in the year surely?

Elbow.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

:(

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

could you imagine being the person who types out the pitchfork singles list into one list?

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i take it all back about guardian commenters!

em2602

13 December 2011 2:23PM

As a teenage girl, and therefore considering myself part of Beyonce's target audience (rather than the middle-aged men who come here to throw in their mindless and useless waffle about how the music is average but it's fine because she looks good etc.) I really, really like this album. Part of me dies a little bit inside every single time that an artist that I like converts to the popular "dance" vibe of auto-tune and whatever the techno beats are called and it's refreshing to see an artist who is still so relevant can still get sales doing the songs that she undoubtedly does best.

<3 <3 <3

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

25. Soulja Boy – Zan With That Lean

wil smif, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

assume that is in no small part j0rdans doing

wil smif, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

worst p4k top 10 tracks & general list ever imo

wil smif, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

(zan with that lean aside)

wil smif, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

could you imagine being the person who types out the pitchfork singles list into one list?

Yes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

my man

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think maybe too much effort can go into the commercially available ones though?

Absolutely agree with this - not really into mixes that try to 'show a full range' or educate or provide some kind of overview or worst of all..join the dots. Different things for different audiences of course and nothing wrong with those things per se but personally I just want to hear something that feels natural/organic and has a flow - think mixes become too tense or uptight when they don't do this

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think the RA mixes list is the best thing posted so far

worst p4k top 10 tracks & general list ever imo

s0 much garbage such a shame on their house

є(٥_ ٥)э, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I saw a really OTM comment in the guardian and then realised it was by tom ewing. figures.

the most irksome comment though is the one about the guardian needing a token black female in the list. like can you stop treating the straight white male experience as normative and universal FOR ONCE. anyway...

three good songs in the top 10 is a pretty good showing for pitchfork I think!

bayou goo, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Different things for different audiences of course and nothing wrong with those things per se but personally I just want to hear something that feels natural/organic and has a flow - think mixes become too tense or uptight when they don't do this

This is the fault of the DJ/artist in question rather than the format though?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Difficult to say - if someone does an online mix which is organic, and then a CD one which is edutainment or overview, is it the format? the DJ, the label? expectation? internalized pressure?

No idea

april wowak, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rock-A-Rolla Top 50 Albums

01 The Book Of Knots - Garden Of Fainting Stars (Ipecac)
02 Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will (Rock Action)
03 Earth - Angels Of Darkness, Demons Of Light 1 (Southern Lord)
04 Wolves In The Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (Southern Lord)
05 Boris - Attention Please (Sargent House)
06 Obake - Obake (Rarenoise)
07 Black Cobra - Invernal (Southern Lord)
08 Barn Owl - Lost In The Glare (Thrill Jockey)
09 Loss - Despond (Profound Lore)
10 Wooden Shjips - West (Thrill Jockey)
11 Mike Patton - The Solitude Of Prime Numbers (Ipecac)
12 Grails - Deep Politics (Temporary Residence Ltd)
13 Tombs - Path Of Totality (Relapse)
14 Alva Noto - Univrs (Raster-Noton)
15 Asva - Presences Of Absences (Important)
16 Enablers - Blown Realms And Stalled Explosions (Exile On Mainstream)
17 Hexvessel - Dawnbearer (Svart)
18 Today Is The Day - Pain Is A Warning (Black Market Activities/Good Fight Music)
19 Bloodiest - Descent (Relapse)
20 Killl - Killl (Fysisk Format)
21 Fire! With Jim O' Rourke - Unreleased? (Rune Grammofon)
22 Boris - Heavy Rocks (Sargent House)
23 Remember Remember - The Quickening (Rock Action)
24 Hella - Tripper (Sargent House)
25 Årabrot - Solar Anus (Fysisk Format)
26 The Atlas Moth - An Ache For The Distance (Profound Lore)
27 Mamiffer - Mare Decendrii (Sige/Conspiracy)
28 Gridlink - Orphan (Hydra Head)
29 Explosions In The Sky - Take Care, Take Care, Take Care (Temporary Residence/Bella Union)
30 Circle - Infektio (Conspiracy)
31 YOB - Atma (Profound Lore)
32 Dale Cooper Quartet & The Dictaphones - Metamanoir (Denovali)
33 Blut Aus Nord - 777: The Desanctification (Debemur Morto)
34 A Storm Of Light - As The Valley Of Death Becomes Us, Our Silver Memories Fade (Profound Lore)
39 Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraisoufo - The Ripper At The Heaven Gates Of Dark (Riot Season)
40 Amebix - Sonic Mass (Easy Action)
41 Mika Vainio - Life (...It Eats You Up) (Editions Mego)
42 Birds Of Passage - Winter Lady (Denovalii)
43 Rwake - Rest (Relapse)
44 Conquering Animal Sound - Kammerspiel (Gizeh)
45 Zombi - Escape Velocity (Relapse)
46 Terra Tenebrosa - The Tunnels (Trust No One)
47 Raoul Sinier - Guilty Cloaks (Ad Noiseam)
48 Ovo - Cor Cordium (Supernatural Cat)
49 Rising - To Solemn Ash (Exile On Mainstream)
50 Skullflower - Fucked on A Pile Of Corpses (Cold Spring)

For those in the U.S. who had trouble hunting down this magazine like me, Rock-A-Rolla is now available digitally for a reasonable price at http://rock-a-rolla.com/

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Didn't know so many teenage girls read The Guardian

EveChang

As another teenage girl I am delighted to see Beyoncé place so high. But I do wish Male Guardian writers/readers stopped patronising teenage girls. I love Elbow and Mastodon as much as Beyoncé and I hope they place too.

Perhaps as a teenage girl, who is as open to pop,metal,hiphop,grime,country or indie, guardian writers/readers should be open minded as teenage girls. It's quite pathetic to see so called 'critics' dismissing entire genres of music.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

hah i just got my rock-a-rolla magazine in

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

why wouldn't teenagers i read the guardian! i read it when i was a teenager

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like I said on the other thread, teen girls are better music critics than most of you.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like that Rock a Rolla list p well, though every album from their top 10 that I've heard is highly underwhelming (with the possible exception of Barn Owl)

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that Earth album was a snooze.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked it, though admittedly it was more of the same. The Wooden Shjips album is really good too, as is the WITTR record.

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh I really liked the first track of the Wooden Shjips album but it kinda devolved from there into twee Doors imo

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

(still like it better than Mazes tho; props on Rockarolla for ranking it better than that)

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol at "Twee Doors". Not to be mistaken for "Twee Doors Down"!

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Beyonce blurb makes it sound much duller than it actually is though - "refined" and "mature" aren't words I'd used to describe it.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay I just went back and listened to 'Lazy Bones' again and it was a lot better than I remembered, though it still has a bit of the cheesy late-Doors album filler feel to it

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey kerr does you new issue of Rockarolla have the big AMT feature in it?

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

let me have a look george

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

AMT are on the cover

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 page feature (though 2 are just photos)

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha I am friends with Kawabata on Fbook and he just posted a picture of that!

Awesome!

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

4.5 pages of it is their discography

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah just studio discography..

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rock-A-Rolla is always my favorite list!

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

have you heard that new Obake record, dealwithit? I've only heard one song from whats been played on outloud but I think it might be a monster!

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

its very good

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

the rock-a-rolla list is always different to all the other lists out there.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never heard of Obake, but I'm going to right that wrong today.

Rock-A-Rolla is the Whineyest list, and if I lived in the UK, I could see me and Lou Jag trading CDs of the ones we're missing.

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I seriously wish i could run/invent an American version but I think it would sell like six copies monthly

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, like with the RA compilations list, it makes me want to check out all of the records I haven't already heard.

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't imagine rock-a-rolla sells a lot but its been running for 5 or 6 years now I think. It's bi-monthly (like Zero Tolerance) and both are surviving. You can at least get ZT in Smiths. I need to subscribe to get rock-a-rolla. Otherwise i think you can only get it in record shops.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp totally. Quietus list does this too tbh, but there's def some overlap between the two

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

also lol Kerr I was gonna ask you to send me a copy of the AMT issue for Christmas

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm kinda curious about the Book of Knots album; I dont think I'd heard of them tbh

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

aQ usually sells it George. Buy it from them

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok thx

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

the problem with rock-a-rolla is the patton/ipecac worship, which puts me off checking that album george. It does feel like they do this every year.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxp Neither had I, sounds like they're along For Carnation lines perhaps?
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Book+of+Knots

Neil S, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

album's on Spotify

massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

the problem with rock-a-rolla is the patton/ipecac worship, which puts me off checking that album george. It does feel like they do this every year.

― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:00 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

They really do love Patton (hey, so do i); but I think they could stand to be a little more selective about it. That Book Of Knots album is not the move and that Patton solo album is like maybe the fourth best Patton solo album.

But I'm right in line when they're championing Zu, Dalek, Secret Chiefs, etc...

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

And I'm aware my Patton love is just a little more annoying than some dude polling the SYR series or whatever

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Permalink

have you heard that new Obake record, dealwithit? I've only heard one song from whats been played on outloud but I think it might be a monster!

― massachusetts_capricorns_cru (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:48 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

its very good

― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:48 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

I liked it, but where's the Zu? I wanted more Zu.

league of women voters, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh i don't think anyone here has any problem with patton really

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

(full confession i did not listen to the whole thing)

league of women voters, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would prob read and enjoy Rock-A-Rolla if given the chance but man that name

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

dying

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like patton too but its a bit much in that mag!

xps
I assume the name comes from the judas priest album.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah but that's like deej saying yesterday that 'so many shrimp' is an unimpeachable name because it was a pimp c lyric

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Obake is some of the Zu guys, right?

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least one

http://www.last.fm/music/Obake

he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

from a review i saw

Been a lot of coverage of ‘rock’ music here at LTW, serious discussion questioning why The Mercury Prize chooses to ignore the entire genre, and also more lighthearted fun from our kitchen guru Vegan Black Metal Chef – as such I thought I had better take look at rock, but I like my tunes a little darker than most so was intrigued by the first release from Obake – I had no knowledge of this band, a four piece consisting of Massimoo Pupillo (Bass), Eraldo Bernocchi (Guitars), Lorenzo Fornasari (Vocals/FX), and Bales Pandi (Drums) however a little research revealed that its members have variously been members of or worked with Zu, Faith No More, The Melvins, Merzbow, Bill Laswell, Justin Broadwick, and Thomas Fehlmann; some serious names in the sphere of cutting edge and experimental music.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

bassist from Zu http://thequietus.com/articles/06997-obake

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

however a little research revealed that its members have variously been members of or worked with Zu, Faith No More, The Melvins, Merzbow, Bill Laswell, Justin Broadwick, and Thomas Fehlmann;

so "has a member of Zu"

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno why you're harping on that, its probably the only good self-branding i've ever done. xps to al the professional hater

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

keys open doors

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah having the same name as the most popular Canadian rapper of all time was pretty brilliant self-branding, may have been accidental but you should still give yourself some credit for that

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

This Obake is basically

the band

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't feeling the Earth and Mogwai, but will re-listen. I got Obake a couple weeks ago and it is definitely impressive. Still listening to figure out how much I'll like it for continued listening. I'm excited to check out Book Of Knots, Loss, Alva Noto, Asva, Enablers, Killl, etc.

I always appreciate Rock-A-Rolla's aesthetic focus, even if some of the albums are just interesting, but I have no interest in hearing much more. For me, they'd be the perfect mag if they expanded coverage a bit and added some writers who are less dismissive of stoner/doom/psych, stuff that may be less innovative and experimental, but often has more staying power, at least in my playlists. I'm just happy I can now get an electronic subscription for a fraction of the price of a U.S. subscription where you get the issues a month and a half after publication.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Loss and Asva albums are brilliant

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Loss album is p gross

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah having the same name as the most popular Canadian rapper of all time was pretty brilliant self-branding, may have been accidental but you should still give yourself some credit for that

― Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:54 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

*shakes fist at fate*

joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if a magazine that covered the very best in lots of genres could survive. Like no genre is out of bounds. If its top notch it gets covered rather than based on sales/label advertising.

Whiney you could save the music magazine.

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of mags have an ostensibly omnivorous approach or have an 'only the best' approach to covering genres outside their primary interest. obviously nobody can cover EVERYTHING, though the most you could hope for really is ANYTHING, a lack of emphasis or predictability. (xpost)

Mr. Stevenson #2, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

where's the link to Rock A Rolla electronic subscriptions? Are they Zinio?

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

pc/mac versionhttp://www.pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?titleid=768&title=Rock-A-Rolla

you can also get iphone/android

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if a magazine that covered the very best in lots of genres could survive. Like no genre is out of bounds. If its top notch it gets covered rather than based on sales/label advertising.

Whiney you could save the music magazine.

― Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

boof troop (dealwithit.gif), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

also what is aQ?

he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://aquariusrecords.org/

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

fastnbulbous have you ever read Zero Tolerance http://v2.ztmag.com/ ? It's for people who think Terrorizer is too mainstream
lol

It does have a really good reviews section though. Something too many magazines dont have these days

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

George it says on the site the new issue has an AMT feature

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I just dug that up; I can get it shipped to the States for 7 pounds

he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

ouch

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha I'm not sure how much that is!

he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh so yeah that's $10.75

huh well Kerr you read it first and tell me if its worth it

he said "grody" (henrietta lacks), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

its quite a small sized magazine even though it has plenty of pages. But it seems theres a few more articles i fancy so i just ordered it for £3.75. It wasn't in Smiths today when I picked up The Wire.
I think Kerrang's albums of the year issue might be out tomorrow. Last years was surprisingly ok iirc.
Terrorizers will be january i think?

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kerrang Top 101 albums of 2011

101 Black Veil Brides - Set The World On Fire
100 Rise To Remain - City Of Vultures
99 The Treatment - This Might Hurt
98 Dropkick Murphys - Going Out In Style
97 Young Legionnaire - Crisis Works
96 RAMESSES - Possessed By The Rise Of Magik
95 Loutallica - Lulu
94 Cave In - White Silence
93 Bastions - Hospital Corners
92 All Time Low - Dirty Work
91 Death Cab For Cutie - Codes And Keys
90 The Subways - Money And Celebrity
89 Scale The Summit - The Collective
88 Trivium - In Waves
87 Iceage - New Brigade
86 OPETH - Heritage
85 Asking Alexandria - Reckless & Relentless
84 Arbouretum - The Gathering
83 Yellowcard - When You're Through Thinking Say Yes
82 This Is Hell - Black Mass
81 Red Hot Chili Peppers - I'm With You
80 Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die, But You Will
79 Mike Patton - The Solitude Of Prime Numbers
78 Kids In Glass Houses - In Gold Blood
77 I Am The Avalanche - Avalanche United
76 Goes Cube - In Tides And Drifts
75 OFF! - First Four EP's
74 The Icarus Line - Wildlife
73 Rival Sons - Pressure And Time
72 Retox - Ugly Animals
71 Procession - Destroyers Of The Faith
70 My Ruin - A Southern Revelation
69 FEN - EPOCH
68 Animals As Leaders - Weightless
67 ALTAR OF PLAGUES - MAMMAL
66 The Blackout - hope
65 unearth - Darkness In The Light
64 Sucioperro - The Heart String And How To Pull It
63 IN SOLITUDE - THE WORLD, THE FLESH, THE DEVIL
62 SKELETONWITCH - Forever Abomination
61 Chuck Ragan - Covering Ground
60 Times Of Grace - Hymn Of A Broken Man
59 Black Spiders - Sons Of The North
58 Thursday - No Devolucion
57 *Shels - Plains Of The Purple Buffalo
56 The Black Keys - El Camino
55 We Are The Ocean - Go Now And Live
54 Slaves To Gravity - Underwater Outerspace
53 PRIMORDIAL - REDEMPTION AT THE PURITANS HAND
52 Funeral For A Friend - Welcome Home Armageddon
51 EARTH - ANGELS OF DARKNESS, DEMONS OF LIGHT 1
50 Heights - Dead Ends
49 Bury Your Dead - Mosh N' Roll
48 Deaf Havana - Fools And Worthless Liars
47 BLOOD CEREMONY - LIVING WITH THE ANCIENTS
46 The Swellers - Good For Me
45 Social Distortion - Hard Times And Nursery Rhymes
44 The Computers - This Is The Computers
43 Hell - Human Remains
42 Japanese Voyeurs - Yolk
41 The Answer - Revival
40 Rival Schools - Pedals
39 Blink-182 - Neighborhoods
38 Tellison - The Wages Of Fear
37 Hyro Da Hero - Birth, School,Work,Death
36 Cerebral Ballzy - S/t
35 Exit Ten - Give Me Infinity
34 Evile - Five Serpent's Teeth
33 J Mascis - Several Shades Of Why
32 Evanescence - Eveanescence
31 Touche Amore - Parting The Sea between Brightness And Me
30 Puscifer - Conditions Of My Parole
29 City And Colour - Little Hell
28 WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM - CELESTIAL LINEAGE
27 Arcane Roots - Left Fire
26 Jane's Addiction - The Great Escape Artist
25 Fucked Up - David Comes To Life
24 Destroy Rebuild Until God Shows - D.R.U.G.S.
23 La Dispute - Wildlife
22 TRAP THEM - DARKER HANDCRAFT
21 Taking Back Sunday - S/t
20 Twin Atlantic - Free
19 New Found Glory - Radiosurgery
18 Defeater - Empty Days And Sleepless Nights
17 Cage The Elephant - Thank You, Happy Birthday
16 Thrice - Major/Minor
15 The King Blues - Punk & Poetry
14 Mariachi El Bronx - II
13 Korn - The Path Of Totality
12 Frank Turner - England Keep My Bones
11 Beastie Boys - Hot Sauce Committee Part 2
10 Will Haven - Voir Dire
9 The James Cleaver Quintet - That Was Then, This Is Now
8 The Horrible Crowes - Elsie
7 The Wonder Years - Suburbia
6 You Me At Six - Sinners Never Sleep
5 Rise Against - Endgame
4 Foo Fighters - Wasting Light
3 Machine Head - Unto The Locust
2 Letlive - Fake History
1 MASTODON - THE HUNTER

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't know if we're extending attention to popular blogs, but here's

GORILLA VS. BEAR | Albums of 2011

30 Nicolas Jaar | Space Is Only Noise
29 Andy Stott | Passed Me By
28 The Weeknd | House of Balloons
27 Clams Casino | Instrumentals
26 Schoolboy Q | Setbacks
25 Elite Gymnastics | Ruin 1 + 2
24 Run DMT | Dreaming
23 Burial | Street Halo
22 Mina Tindle | Mina Tindle
21 Young Galaxy | Shapeshifting
20 Toro y Moi | Freaking Out
19 Pure X | Pleasure
18 Ford & Lopatin | Channel Pressure
17 Washed Out | Within and Without
16 Darkside | Darkside
15 Holy Other | With U
14 The Caretaker | An Empty Bliss Beyond This World
13 Grouper | A I A
12 Sleep ∞ Over | Forever
11 The Sandwitches | Mrs. Jones’ Cookies
10 Puro Instinct | Headbangers in Ecstasy
09 Julianna Barwick | The Magic Place
08 Real Estate | Days
07 araabMUZIK | Electronic Dream
06 Korallreven | An Album By Korallreven
05 A$AP Rocky | LIVELOVEA$AP
04 White Denim | D
03 Panda Bear | Tomboy
02 Peaking Lights | 936
01 Shabazz Palaces | Black Up

GORILLA vs. BEAR’s SONGS of 2011
50 John Maus + Molly Nilsson – Hey Moon
49 Pure X – Dry Ice
48 Joe Goddard – Gabriel feat. Valentina
47 Twin Sister – Kimmi in a Ricefield
46 Smith Westerns – All Die Young
45 Azealia Banks – 212
44 Neon Indian – The Blindside Kiss
43 Puro Instinct – Vapor Girls
42 Big K.R.I.T. – Dreamin
41 Bleached – Think of You
40 White Denim – No Real Reason
39 Kindness – Cyan
38 RUN DMT – Dreaming / Romantic
37 Dum Dum Girls – Coming Down
36 Massive Attack vs. Burial – Paradise Circus
35 Gang Gang Dance – Mindkilla
34 Tyler, the Creator – Yonkers
33 The Sandwitches – Joe Says
32 Beyonce – Countdown
31 Freddie Gibbs + Madlib – Thuggin’
30 Darkside – A1
29 James Blake – The Wilhelm Scream
28 Grouper – Moving Machine
27 M83 – Midnight City
26 Toro y Moi – How I Know
25 Jamie xx – Far Nearer
24 Diplo / Busta / Weezy, etc. – Look at Me Now
23 Korallreven – As Young As Yesterday
22 Jhene Aiko – Stranger
21 araabMUZIK – Streetz Tonight
20 Clams Casino – I’m God (instrumental)
19 Ford & Lopatin – Too Much MIDI (Please Forgive Me)
18 John Maus – Believer
17 The Weeknd – House of Balloons / Glass Table Girls
16 Grimes – Oblivion
15 Cass McCombs – County Line
14 Kurt Vile – Baby’s Arms
13 Julianna Barwick – Prizewinning
12 Real Estate – Green Aisles
11 Charli XCX – Stay Away / Nuclear Seasons
10 Girls – Vomit
09 Glass Candy – Warm in the Winter
08 A$AP Rocky – Peso
07 Purity Ring – Lofticries
06 Girls – Honey Bunny
05 Shabazz Palaces – Are you… Can you… Were you? (Felt)
04 Peaking Lights – All The Sun That Shines
03 Lana Del Rey – Video Games
02 White Denim – Street Joy
01 Panda Bear – Alsatian Darn

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kerrang proving they really will put any old shite by metallica in their list.

They probably decided on the jump from the traditional top 20 to 101 just to include Loutallica

Minga Frump (Jimmy Riddle), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor Albums EOY 2011

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1423

01. Nicolas Jaar - Space Is Only Noise [Circus Company]
02. Machinedrum - Room(s) [Planet Mu]
03. Roman Flügel - Fatty Folders [Dial]
04. Morphosis - What Have We Learned [Delsin]
05. Zomby - Dedication [4AD]
06. Omar-S - It Can Be Done But Only I Can Do It [FXHE]
07. Clams Casino - Instrumentals [Type]
08. Kuedo - Severant [Planet Mu]
09. Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica [Software]
10. Pinch & Shackleton - Pinch & Shackleton [Honest Jon's]
11. Andy Stott - Passed Me By [Modern Love]
12. Moomin - The Story About You [Smallville]
13. Steffi - Yours & Mine [Ostgut Ton]
14. James Blake - James Blake [Atlas]
15. Tiger & Woods - Through the Green [Running Back]
16. The Weeknd - House Of Balloons [Self-Released]
17. Tim Hecker - Ravedeath 1972 [Kranky]
18. BNJMN - Black Square [Rush Hour]
19. Instra:mental - Resolution 653 [NonPlus+]
20. John Maus - We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves [Upset The Rhythm]

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really need to check out that machinedrum album. is it along the same lines as his work 3-4 years ago? that's the last time i heard his stuff.

Z S, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know his previous stuff, but the lazy comparison for Room(s) is a less murky Burial.

sean doily, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't see that comparison at all

Number None, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok maybe I'm completely wrong, but it makes sense in my head (I've only listened to Room(s) twice so it was a snap judgement)...they're coming from different genres obv but the use of vocal samples seems notably similar (though maybe not uniquely so) and the overall ambience of emotive background music is functionally very close.

sean doily, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm just listening to Room(s) now and there are more similarities than i remembered. Machinedrum's music a is a lot busier though. It feels pretty cluttered at times, which isn't something you can say about Burial

Number None, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't dig that room(s) album, and i love burial's music.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 December 2011 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am following some dude's list via twitter and would like to give him props for including the craig wedren album "WAND" which is really good and is not getting a lot of press.

n/a, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks! i am still rolling out my list but it'll all be here by friday morning:

http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2011/12/my-top-50-albums-of-2011.html

also my paper did top 10 albums of the year and top 10 local (Baltimore) albums:

http://citypaper.com/special/topten/the-year-in-music-1.1244503
http://citypaper.com/special/topten/the-year-in-local-music-1.1244501

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

new machinedrum is definitely way moodier than his early stuff, the burial comparison is not that far off.

moonbop, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

guess i'll have to give it another listen.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 December 2011 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean this sounds like burial to me idk

moonbop, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've just noticed how conspiciously absent the Jamie Woon album is from these lists, I thought that would have fared a lot better.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kind of surprised at just how much love the Nicolas Jaar album is getting on some of these lists. Maybe I need to revisit, but it didn't seem all that amazing to me.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

AllMusic’s Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Albums of 2011
http://blog.allmusic.com/2011/12/14/allmusics-favorite-raphip-hop-albums-of-2011/

Ace Hood – Blood Sweat & Tears
Beastie Boys – Hot Sauce Committee, Pt. 2
Danny Brown – XXX
Childish Gambino – Camp
The Cool Kids – When Fish Ride Bicycles
Das Racist – Relax
DJ Quik – The Book of David
Drake – Take Care
J. Cole – Cole World: The Sideline Story
Killer Mike – PL3DGE
Lil Wayne – Tha Carter IV
Pharoahe Monch – W.A.R. (We Are Renegades)
9th Wonder – The Wonder Years
Phonte – Charity Starts at Home
Pusha T – Fear of God II: Let Us Pray
Random Axe – Random Axe
The Roots – Undun
Saigon – The Greatest Story Never Told
ScHoolboy Q – Setbacks
Shabazz Palaces – Black Up
Tech N9ne – All 6’s and 7’s
Tyler, the Creator – Goblin
Wale – Ambition
Jay-Z/Kanye West – Watch the Throne
Wiz Khalifa – Rolling Papers

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 14 December 2011 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't feeling the Jaar album much, but I do like a lot of the singles. I think I need to hear the album on a real stereo.

moonbop, Thursday, 15 December 2011 00:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

A lot of his singles, I mean. Seems like there's at least an album's worth of nonlp stuff.

moonbop, Thursday, 15 December 2011 00:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

AllMusic’s Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Albums of 2011

embarassing

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 15 December 2011 00:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's kind of adorable that someone besides Mountain Dew still remembers that The Cool Kids exist

some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, 15 December 2011 00:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Top 50 Albums of 2011: 50-21

50. Youth Lagoon – The Year of Hibernation
49. Wild Flag – Wild Flag
48. Toro Y Moi – Underneath the Pine
47. Sepalcure – Sepalcure
46. Cults – Cults
45. Kendrick Lamar – Section.80
44. Colin Stetson – New History Warfare Vol.2: Judges
43. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes
42. SBTRKT – SBTRKT
41. Liturgy – Aesthethica
40. AraabMuzik – Electonic Dream
39. The War on Drugs – Slave Ambient
38. Sandro Perri – Impossible Spaces
37. Iceage – New Brigade
36. Kate Bush – 50 Words For Snow
35. Frank Ocean – Nostalgia, Ultra.
34. Katy B – On a Mission
33. Fucked Up – David Comes to Life
32. Panda Bear – Tomboy
31. Ty Segall – Goodbye Bread
30. Tim Hecker – Ravedeath, 1972
29. DJ Quik – The Book of David
28. Cut Copy – Zonoscope
27. Beyonce – 4
26. The Field – Looping State of Mind
25. Gang Gang Dance – Eye Contact
24. Julianna Barwick – The Magic Place
23. Bill Callahan – Apocalypse
22. The Caretaker – An Empty Bliss Beyond This World
21. Jay-Z / Kanye West – Watch the Throne

Dan S, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

how do you get these up so early?

є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's on the site already. they usually post these things late at night. it's the same with their reviews

Dan S, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

that machinedrum album is hella boring. dj diamond album is way better as things in that vein go.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Thursday, 15 December 2011 07:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

LWE 30-21

30. EQD, Equalized#005-B
29. RNDM, Hideaway (Dub)
28. Tin Man, Nonneo (Donato Dozzy Remix)
27. Protect-U, World Music
26. Roman Flügel, Iron Curtain
25. Crystal Maze, Crystal Maze (Chicago Skyway Remix)
24. Martyn, Masks
23. Burial, Stolen Dog
22. The Citizen’s Band, West 42nd
21. Machinedrum, Come1

― april wowak, Monday, December 12, 2011

just heard the citizens band track from this - really good, wooozy!

april wowak, Thursday, 15 December 2011 07:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Interesting to see Frank Ocean at no.3 in the Guardian. I suspected there'd be an Odd-Future-related one in the top five. I'd imagine Katy B and PJ Harvey would be no.2 and no.1.

ShariVari, Thursday, 15 December 2011 08:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quite surprised at how badly the Sandwell District album has done - possibly in part due to the small release at the end of 2010, but at least RA clearly considered it, but it didn't get into their top 20.

toby, Thursday, 15 December 2011 08:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can't put sandwell district on any of my ballots. discogs says very clearly the version i've been loving is a 2010 thing. if i disregard that then i open the floodgates to every other dec 2010 album.

i was surprised at frank ocean on the guardian list. i'm kind of perplexed by frank ocean love in general. he is just not very special and he CAN'T SING!!!!!!!!!! is it that he's "sensitive"? critics : frank ocean :: x factor voters : matt cardle?

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 08:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah the Sandwell thing of only putting out 300 (?) copies one week before the end of 2010 and then releasing a less good version on CD in 2011 almost seems calculated to avoid appearing on year-end lists. That said, I don't know how many people actually heard it in 2010.

toby, Thursday, 15 December 2011 09:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

LWE 10-6

10. Todd Terje, “Snooze 4 Love"
09. Ital, “Ital’s Theme”
08. Spekter, “Pipe Bomb”
07. Gesloten Cirkel, “Yamagic”
06. D’Marc Cantu, “Set Free”

april wowak, Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

re:Pipe Bomb - I know its the way things work but feels like this was a shoe-in only because it was a one sided 12 and on theo's label (and a bit because specter's records were so overlooked in previous years)

april wowak, Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was surprised at frank ocean on the guardian list. i'm kind of perplexed by frank ocean love in general. he is just not very special and he CAN'T SING!!!!!!!!!! is it that he's "sensitive"? critics : frank ocean :: x factor voters : matt cardle?

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 08:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

Err... You're not gonna like this, but I don't think it's so much to do with his music as the fact his whole angle makes him more saleable to more rock-oriented audiences - i.e. the OFWGKTA association, lyrics about Coachella, how he calls himself a "singer-songwriter" rather than an R'n'B artist (which is what he is, really), sampling Radiohead and the Eagles, the "homegrown" element of the music. It's R'n'B for hipsters, not popheads and sadly that's what gets props on non-specialist lists like the Guardian's.

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i kind of knew that but it's nice to have someone else spell it out so i don't get "lex whingeing about the same things again" thrown back at me

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm listening to the goapele album and it's just so gorgeous, light and crisp and melodies for days and her voice is, like, right up in the sky. and yet critics prefer to hole up in frank ocean's horrible bedroom

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:33 (2 years ago) Permalink